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   From: rklsrcls@yahoo.com   
      
   I knew you meant the Grand Negus.  But I still think "Ferengi Pope" is a   
   great phrase.   
      
   "Eric Newman"  wrote in message   
   news:04is20h1nr9g2cpa1ci8qerdn0ieol6odr@4ax.com...   
   > On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:28:43 -0000, "Paul Brown"   
   >  had this to say:   
   >   
   > >   
   > >"ASDR"  wrote in message   
   > >news:XLjXb.308649$xy6.1503869@attbi_s02...   
   > >> LOL!  "Ferengi Popes".  Sounds like a great name for an industrial   
   techno   
   > >> band!   
   > >   
   > >He was obviously referring to the way the Bajoran religion was organised,   
   > >but got a bit confused referring to *Ferengi* Popes. There were no   
   Bajoran   
   > >Nuns, but  there were Bajoran Cardinals and Popes.   
   >   
   > No I wasn't. Call me a reductionist if you want -- hell, it's only   
   > fiction -- but I saw the Bajoran religious women as nuns and the Grand   
   > Negus as the Ferengi Pope.   
   >   
   > > It seems to me that Bajor   
   > >was based on Poland after the Soviet occupation ended. In both Poland and   
   on   
   > >Bajor almost everyone was of the same religion, their religion was very   
   > >important during the occupation and helped unite them against the   
   occupiers.   
   > >The office of Kai is obviously based on the office of Pope, while the   
   Vedeks   
   > >are obviously equivalent to Cardinals. I don't remember a lower rank than   
   > >Vedek, though. Some or all of the Vedeks are members of an electoral   
   > >college, like the College of Cardinals, who elect a new Kai when needed.   
   Kai   
   > >Winn was obviously corrupt right from the beginning, like the Borgias, a   
   > >family which included at least one Pope. One big difference is that the   
   > >Bajorans have a caste system like under Hinduism, but this is no longer   
   > >enforced. Another difference is that Vedeks and Kais can have   
   relationships   
   > >and sex, but that was also the case in the Catholic Church until about   
   the   
   > >12th Century.   
   > >   
   > >>   
   > >> "Eric Newman"  wrote in message   
   > >> news:oq8r20hv7p23kc5pi12e7if4k7qdr9aune@4ax.com...   
   > >> > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:46:15 -0600, The Merry Piper   
   > >> >  had this to say:   
   > >> >   
   > >> > >On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:51:20 +1100, ®Matthew-The Resurrected©   
   > >> > > wrote:   
   > >> > >   
   > >> > >>If all the little geeks stop their crying the show will last.   
   > >> > >>It's far better than the Next Retardation and Deep Sleep Nine.   
   > >> > >   
   > >> > >I was a lukewarm fan of TNG but I thought DS9 was a fine show.   
   > >> >   
   > >> > I thought DS9 was dreary. Klingon politics, Bajoran nuns, Ferengi   
   > >> > popes... not interesting.   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > >I think people should have faith and stop saying that Star Trek:   
   Enterprise   
   > >will be cancelled in the near future. TOS was usually in trouble and look   
   > >what happened to that! I'd like to point out to Paramount Pictures, UPN   
   and   
   > >anyone with influence who may be reading this that like TOS and ST:TNG,   
   Star   
   > >Trek: Enterprise will flourish at some time in the future, then new   
   viewers   
   > >will be interested in watching the earlier episodes, so your investment   
   will   
   > >pay off. It doesn't really matter what day of the week it's on, or what   
   > >people are doing on that day of the week, because of DVD recorders or   
   even   
   > >VHS VCR's. On Sky Digital in Britain it's shown on Mondays at 8PM, then   
   > >repeated on Sundays at 9PM. On Channel 4 it's shown on Sundays at 4:40PM   
   and   
   > >repeated on Wednesday mornings at 1:55AM, but this is Season 2 for people   
   > >who can't be bothered to subscribe to Sky Digital, because they "don't   
   watch   
   > >much TV". It's not currently showing on Germany's SAT.1, but I think   
   Friday   
   > >evenings at 7:15PM has been a traditional new Star Trek slot for them.   
   > >   
   > >I think Star Trek: Enterprise season 3 is getting more like a serial or a   
   > >soap. Every episode has something to do with the Xindi, and clips from   
   > >various recent episodes have been shown at the beginning of at least one   
   of   
   > >the episodes. This is a similar technique to the doomed British soap   
   > >"Brookside" which finished a 21 year run in November 2003, but they only   
   > >started doing that after the decision to cancel was made. If  they'd made   
   > >some of the changes *before* being cancelled, then it may still be   
   running.   
   >   
      
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