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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >   
   >"The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >news:h89290$cvd$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >> In article ,   
   >> Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:h887b1$omj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>>> Which Telos came first?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Star Trek's or Doctor Who?   
   >>>   
   >>>Don't ever claim you're no troll again Yads.   
   >>>   
   >>>Telos has never been in Star Trek (to my knowledge). Vulcan has. It was   
   >>>suggested as the name for a possible 10th planet back in the 1800s. And   
   >>>you   
   >>>know that - you were involved in a thread about it back in 2002, in which   
   >>>you stated (in your usual garbled fashion) "Doctor Who was in first."   
   >>>   
   >>>So now you've cross-posted the question to both a Dr Who group and a Star   
   >>>Trek group, presumably because you're hoping for a flamewar.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You either have never seen the Cage or never watch The Menagerie.   
   >   
   >I've seen both. The planet in the Cage was Telos IV.   
   >   
   >If you know that Telos IV is mentioned in the Cage, you should know that the   
   >Cage was completed in 1965 as a pilot and portions of it were used in the   
   >Menagerie which was first broadcast in November 1966. Telos was first   
   >mentioned in Tomb of the Cybermen which was broadcast in September 1967.   
   >   
   >Can you do the maths Yads?   
   >   
   >   
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   The first pilot was 1954.   
      
   BTW , my mistake.  Sounds so similar.   
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