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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
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   Lord Alan of Zarbiface   wrote:   
   >Stephen Wilson wrote:   
   >> "The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >> news:h895jh$itv$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>> In article ,   
   >>> Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>> "The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:h89290$cvd$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>> Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>>>> "The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:h887b1$omj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>>>>>> Which Telos came first?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Star Trek's or Doctor Who?   
   >>>>>> Don't ever claim you're no troll again Yads.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Telos has never been in Star Trek (to my knowledge). Vulcan has. It was   
   >>>>>> suggested as the name for a possible 10th planet back in the 1800s. And   
   >>>>>> you   
   >>>>>> know that - you were involved in a thread about it back in 2002, in   
   >>>>>> which   
   >>>>>> you stated (in your usual garbled fashion) "Doctor Who was in first."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So now you've cross-posted the question to both a Dr Who group and a   
   >>>>>> Star   
   >>>>>> Trek group, presumably because you're hoping for a flamewar.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> You either have never seen the Cage or never watch The Menagerie.   
   >>>> I've seen both. The planet in the Cage was Telos IV.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you know that Telos IV is mentioned in the Cage, you should know that   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> Cage was completed in 1965 as a pilot and portions of it were used in the   
   >>>> Menagerie which was first broadcast in November 1966. Telos was first   
   >>>> mentioned in Tomb of the Cybermen which was broadcast in September 1967.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Can you do the maths Yads?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> The first pilot was 1954.   
   >>   
   >> No Yads, the "first pilot" was not 1954. The Cage was the first pilot. It   
   >> was filmed in 1964. And it was completed in 1965, as I said above.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >But at least it got us running around responding to him, which is what   
   >the weird little troll had in mind when he started this thread I suppose.   
   >   
      
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