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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Lord Alan of Zarbiface   wrote:   
   >The Doctor wrote:   
   >> In article ,   
   >> Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >>> "The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:h89290$cvd$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>>> In article ,   
   >>>> Stephen Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>>> "The Doctor"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:h887b1$omj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >>>>>> Which Telos came first?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Star Trek's or Doctor Who?   
   >>>>> Don't ever claim you're no troll again Yads.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Telos has never been in Star Trek (to my knowledge). Vulcan has. It was   
   >>>>> suggested as the name for a possible 10th planet back in the 1800s. And   
   >>>>> you   
   >>>>> know that - you were involved in a thread about it back in 2002, in which   
   >>>>> you stated (in your usual garbled fashion) "Doctor Who was in first."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So now you've cross-posted the question to both a Dr Who group and a Star   
   >>>>> Trek group, presumably because you're hoping for a flamewar.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You either have never seen the Cage or never watch The Menagerie.   
   >>> I've seen both. The planet in the Cage was Telos IV.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you know that Telos IV is mentioned in the Cage, you should know that   
   the   
   >>> Cage was completed in 1965 as a pilot and portions of it were used in the   
   >>> Menagerie which was first broadcast in November 1966. Telos was first   
   >>> mentioned in Tomb of the Cybermen which was broadcast in September 1967.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can you do the maths Yads?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> The first pilot was 1954.   
   >>   
   >> BTW , my mistake.  Sounds so similar.   
   >   
   >I'm afraid you've just made another mistake. The Star Trek pilot was in   
   >1964.   
   >   
      
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