XPost: rec.arts.drwho   
   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   \"The Great One\" wrote:   
   >   
   >"The Doctor" wrote in message =   
   >news:h8bfc7$2f7$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >> In article ,   
   >> The Face of Po wrote:   
   >> >I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when=20   
   >> >The Doctor got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:   
   >> >> In article ,   
   >> >> Lord Alan of Zarbiface wrote:   
   >> >>>The Doctor wrote:   
   >> >>>> In article ,   
   >> >>>> Stephen Wilson wrote:   
   >> >>>>> "The Doctor" wrote in message=20   
   >> >>>>> news:h89290$cvd$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >> >>>>>> In article ,   
   >> >>>>>> Stephen Wilson wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>> "The Doctor" wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>> news:h887b1$omj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...   
   >> >>>>>>>> Which Telos came first?   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>> Star Trek's or Doctor Who?   
   >> >>>>>>> Don't ever claim you're no troll again Yads.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> Telos has never been in Star Trek (to my knowledge). Vulcan =   
   >has. It was   
   >> >>>>>>> suggested as the name for a possible 10th planet back in the =   
   >1800s. And=20   
   >> >>>>>>> you   
   >> >>>>>>> know that - you were involved in a thread about it back in =   
   >2002, in which   
   >> >>>>>>> you stated (in your usual garbled fashion) "Doctor Who was in =   
   >first."   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> So now you've cross-posted the question to both a Dr Who group =   
   >and a Star   
   >> >>>>>>> Trek group, presumably because you're hoping for a flamewar.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> You either have never seen the Cage or never watch The =   
   >Menagerie.   
   >> >>>>> I've seen both. The planet in the Cage was Telos IV.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> If you know that Telos IV is mentioned in the Cage, you should =   
   >know that the=20   
   >> >>>>> Cage was completed in 1965 as a pilot and portions of it were =   
   >used in the=20   
   >> >>>>> Menagerie which was first broadcast in November 1966. Telos was =   
   >first=20   
   >> >>>>> mentioned in Tomb of the Cybermen which was broadcast in =   
   >September 1967.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> Can you do the maths Yads?   
   >> >>>>=20   
   >> >>>> The first pilot was 1954.   
   >> >>>>=20   
   >> >>>> BTW , my mistake. Sounds so similar.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>I'm afraid you've just made another mistake. The Star Trek pilot =   
   >was in=20   
   >> >>>1964.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> MCMCXIV =20   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I will relook if those are the roman numerals I saw.   
   >> >   
   >> >They weren't. I doubt that any (serious) production has used those   
   >> >Roman numerals.   
   >> >   
   >> >--=20   
   >> >Happiness will prevail   
   >>=20   
   >> Try MCMLXIV .   
   >> --=20   
   >> Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca   
   >   
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