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   From: jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid   
      
   BTR1701 sent the following on 5/23/2013 9:13 AM:   
   > In article ,   
   >   Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >   
   >> By John Horn   
   >>   
   >> It's one of the strangest scenes in "Star Trek Into Darkness": With no   
   >> explanation or motivation, USS Enterprise visitor Carol (Alice Eve)   
   >> strips down to her blue underwear, whereupon James T. Kirk (Chris Pine)   
   >> sneaks a peek.   
   >>   
   >> Now, Damon Lindelof, who co-wrote the film's screenplay, is apologizing   
   >> for the gratuitous sequence - sort of.   
   >>   
   >> In an email interview with MTV, Lindelof was asked why the "Men in Black   
   >> III" actress was obligated to show off her ripped body.   
   >>   
   >> "Why is Alice Eve in her underwear, gratuitously and unnecessarily,   
   >> without any real effort made as to why in God's name she would undress in   
   >> that circumstance? Well, there's a very good answer for that. But I'm not   
   >> telling you what it is. Because... uh... MYSTERY?" Lindelof wrote.   
   >>   
   >> He said there was a scene written for Khan (Benedict Cumberbatch) to   
   >> remove his shirt, but "I don't think it ever got shot. You know why?   
   >> Because getting actors to take their clothes off is DEMEANING AND   
   >> HORRIBLE AND..."   
   >>   
   >> Lindelof touted the MTV admission on Twitter, first saying, "I copped to   
   >> the fact that we should have done a better job of not being gratuitous in   
   >> our representation of a barely clothed actress," and then joking, "We   
   >> also had Kirk shirtless in underpants in both movies. Do not want to make   
   >> light of something that some construe as mysogenistic."   
   >>   
   >> He followed that post with an apology for misspelling misogynist and by   
   >> writing, "What I'm saying is I hear you, I take responsibility and will   
   >> be more mindful in the future."   
   >   
   > Oh, please. No apology needed. We need to see more of Carol Marcus, not   
   > less!   
      
   When I see a buff guy shirtless in a scene in a show or a movie, I know   
   what's going on, but I don't get all offended by it or cry foul. And I   
   certainly don't accuse the writers and director of "hating" men. When   
   are feminists and their overly sensitive pals gonna learn to stop   
   bitching about this sort of thing?   
      
   Laugh at it? That's fair. Make fun of it? That's understandable. But be   
   *offended* by it, or accuse someone of "hating"? Ridiculous.   
      
   --   
   Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre   
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