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   From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   BTR1701   wrote:   
   >In article ,   
   > "Jim G."  wrote:   
   >   
   >> BTR1701 sent the following on 5/23/2013 9:13 AM:   
   >> > In article ,   
   >> >   Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> By John Horn   
   >> >>   
   >> >> It's one of the strangest scenes in "Star Trek Into Darkness": With no   
   >> >> explanation or motivation, USS Enterprise visitor Carol (Alice Eve)   
   >> >> strips down to her blue underwear, whereupon James T. Kirk (Chris Pine)   
   >> >> sneaks a peek.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Now, Damon Lindelof, who co-wrote the film's screenplay, is apologizing   
   >> >> for the gratuitous sequence - sort of.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> In an email interview with MTV, Lindelof was asked why the "Men in Black   
   >> >> III" actress was obligated to show off her ripped body.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> "Why is Alice Eve in her underwear, gratuitously and unnecessarily,   
   >> >> without any real effort made as to why in God's name she would undress in   
   >> >> that circumstance? Well, there's a very good answer for that. But I'm not   
   >> >> telling you what it is. Because... uh... MYSTERY?" Lindelof wrote.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> He said there was a scene written for Khan (Benedict Cumberbatch) to   
   >> >> remove his shirt, but "I don't think it ever got shot. You know why?   
   >> >> Because getting actors to take their clothes off is DEMEANING AND   
   >> >> HORRIBLE AND..."   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Lindelof touted the MTV admission on Twitter, first saying, "I copped to   
   >> >> the fact that we should have done a better job of not being gratuitous in   
   >> >> our representation of a barely clothed actress," and then joking, "We   
   >> >> also had Kirk shirtless in underpants in both movies. Do not want to make   
   >> >> light of something that some construe as mysogenistic."   
   >> >>   
   >> >> He followed that post with an apology for misspelling misogynist and by   
   >> >> writing, "What I'm saying is I hear you, I take responsibility and will   
   >> >> be more mindful in the future."   
   >> >   
   >> > Oh, please. No apology needed. We need to see more of Carol Marcus, not   
   >> > less!   
   >>   
   >> When I see a buff guy shirtless in a scene in a show or a movie, I know   
   >> what's going on, but I don't get all offended by it or cry foul. And I   
   >> certainly don't accuse the writers and director of "hating" men. When   
   >> are feminists and their overly sensitive pals gonna learn to stop   
   >> bitching about this sort of thing?   
   >>   
   >> Laugh at it? That's fair. Make fun of it? That's understandable. But be   
   >> *offended* by it, or accuse someone of "hating"? Ridiculous.   
   >   
   >It's the way things are these days. You're instantly accused of 'hate'   
   >the moment you disagree with someone's agenda.   
      
   Lust Is My Agenda would make a good T-shirt.   
      
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