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From: pwallace@moviepig.com
On May 24, 9:44 pm, BTR1701 wrote:
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> "Jim G." wrote:
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> > BTR1701 sent the following on 5/23/2013 9:13 AM:
> > > In article ,
> > > Ubiquitous wrote:
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> > >> By John Horn
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> > >> It's one of the strangest scenes in "Star Trek Into Darkness": With no
> > >> explanation or motivation, USS Enterprise visitor Carol (Alice Eve)
> > >> strips down to her blue underwear, whereupon James T. Kirk (Chris Pine)
> > >> sneaks a peek.
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> > >> Now, Damon Lindelof, who co-wrote the film's screenplay, is apologizing
> > >> for the gratuitous sequence - sort of.
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> > >> In an email interview with MTV, Lindelof was asked why the "Men in Black
> > >> III" actress was obligated to show off her ripped body.
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> > >> "Why is Alice Eve in her underwear, gratuitously and unnecessarily,
> > >> without any real effort made as to why in God's name she would undress
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> > >> that circumstance? Well, there's a very good answer for that. But I'm
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> > >> telling you what it is. Because... uh... MYSTERY?" Lindelof wrote.
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> > >> He said there was a scene written for Khan (Benedict Cumberbatch) to
> > >> remove his shirt, but "I don't think it ever got shot. You know why?
> > >> Because getting actors to take their clothes off is DEMEANING AND
> > >> HORRIBLE AND..."
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> > >> Lindelof touted the MTV admission on Twitter, first saying, "I copped to
> > >> the fact that we should have done a better job of not being gratuitous
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> > >> our representation of a barely clothed actress," and then joking, "We
> > >> also had Kirk shirtless in underpants in both movies. Do not want to
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> > >> light of something that some construe as mysogenistic."
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> > >> He followed that post with an apology for misspelling misogynist and by
> > >> writing, "What I'm saying is I hear you, I take responsibility and will
> > >> be more mindful in the future."
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> > > Oh, please. No apology needed. We need to see more of Carol Marcus, not
> > > less!
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> > When I see a buff guy shirtless in a scene in a show or a movie, I know
> > what's going on, but I don't get all offended by it or cry foul. And I
> > certainly don't accuse the writers and director of "hating" men. When
> > are feminists and their overly sensitive pals gonna learn to stop
> > bitching about this sort of thing?
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> > Laugh at it? That's fair. Make fun of it? That's understandable. But be
> > *offended* by it, or accuse someone of "hating"? Ridiculous.
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> It's the way things are these days. You're instantly accused of 'hate'
> the moment you disagree with someone's agenda.
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