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   Ubiquitous to no_offline_contact@example.com   
   Re: William Shatner Scolds EU Over Plan    
   02 Feb 24 04:30:41   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.tv.star-trek.tos, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: weberm@polaris.net   
      
   no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:   
   > Ubiquitous  wrote:   
      
   >> Actor William Shatner scolded members of parliament in the European   
   >> Union over reports that they planned to address the "gendered   
   >> language" in the iconic introduction to his science fiction   
   >> fan-favorite television series: "Star Trek."   
   >>   
   >> GB News reported on the initiative, which was apparently inspired by   
   >> a 61- page document -- titled "Toolkit on Gender-sensitive   
   >> Communication" -- which was published by the European Institute for   
   >> Gender Equality.   
   >>   
   >> In addition to advising against the use of phrases like "no-man's   
   >> land" -- suggesting "unclaimed territory" as an alternative -- the   
   >> document addressed the problematic goals of the Galactic Federation,   
   >> namely "to boldly go where no man has gone before."   
   >>   
   >> According to the group's findings, statements such as that one   
   >> created an environment where "women may be subject to invisibility or   
   >> omission."   
   >>   
   >> Shatner, who delivered the line as part of the introduction of each   
   >> "Star Trek" episode, was not convinced.   
   >>   
   >> "Presentism at work yet again," Shatner began by registering his   
   >> complaint about the attempt to apply today's values to a show that   
   >> was created in a very different time and culture.   
   >>   
   >> "Why start at Trek?" the actor asked in his X post, suggesting that   
   >> there were certainly more important historically significant   
   >> documents that should be addressed first.   
   >>   
   >> "Isn't it better to start at the beginning and redo foundation   
   >> material such as the Magna Carta, religious writings, works of   
   >> Shakespeare before worrying about a silly TV show opening that   
   >> reflects social commentary of the time?" he asked. "If people are   
   >> offended by 6 seconds of dialogue recorded in 1966 without a modicum   
   >> of understanding of the social issues at the time there's bigger   
   >> issues that they need to deal with first -- like educating   
   >> themselves."   
   >>   
   >>       Presentism at work yet again. Why start at Trek? ??Isn't it   
   >> better to start at the beginning and redo foundation material such as   
   >> the Magna Carta, religious writings, works of Shakespeare before   
   >> worrying about a silly TV show opening that reflects social   
   >> commentary of the...  pic.twitter.com/P0okn5rYca   
   >>   
   >>       -- William Shatner (@WilliamShatner) January 29, 2024   
   >>   
   >> One person responded to Shatner by asking is the EU planned to ban   
   >> the words of American astronaut Neil Armstrong next.   
   >>   
   >> "Neil Armstrong must be spinning in his grave ... 'One small step for   
   >> man, one giant leap for mankind.' Will he be canceled for leaving out   
   >> an 'a'? Is the word 'mankind' misogynous? We live in foolish times."   
   >>   
   >>       Neil Armstrong must be spinning in his grave..."One small   
   >> step for man, one giant leap for mankind".   
   >>   
   >>       Will he be canceled for leaving out an "a"? Is the word   
   >> "mankind" misogynous? We live in foolish times.   
   >>   
   >>       -- Ry Brooks (@RyBrooks) January 29, 2024   
   >   
   >While Shatner is absolutely right in the larger sense, he seems to have   
   >forgotten that as long ago as TNG, that famous intro was changed to   
   >"where no ONE has gone before". I assume that was because "activists"   
   >of one kind or another were already upset about the use of "man".   
   >   
   >All of these "activists" seem to have forgotten - or more likely   
   >ignored - the fact that "Man" has long been understood to include BOTH   
   >sexes and does NOT mean exclusively male.   
      
   I blame our degraded education system.   
      
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   Let's go Brandon!   
      
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