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   Melissa Hollingsworth to All   
   Re: All-Male Species? (was Re: What Did    
   06 Aug 25 13:00:22   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv   
   From: thetruemelissa@gmail.com   
      
   Verily, in article <10709vh$3iuai$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com   
   deliver unto us this message:   
   >   
   > Melissa Hollingsworth  wrote:   
   > >weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:   
   > >>ahk@chinet.com wrote:   
   > >>>Melissa Hollingsworth  wrote:   
   > >>>>weberm@polaris.net wrote:   
   >   
   > >>>>>THE INSIDIOUS REALITY OF STARFLEET ACADEMY'S HALF JEM'HADAR:   
   > >>>>>Star Trek and Alex Kurtzman aren't just putting int a half Jem'Hadar   
   into   
   > >>>>>Starfleet Academy to stir controversy of the character itself, but the   
   > >>>>>actress Gina Yashere is meant to subert culture.   
   > >>>>>https://youtu.be/RSwaTnxuvRk?si=joe_yYqXNjiWlPkM   
   >   
   > >>>According to Memory Alpha, there was a line of dialogue in the Deep   
   > >>>Space Nine episode "To the Death" that they are all males, but "male" is   
   > >>>a sexual characteristic. If the species cannot reproduce, then there are   
   > >>>no males.   
   >   
   > >>>Yes, the writer was stupid.   
   >   
   > >>Well... they're masculine, so doesn't that make them male?   
   >   
   > >IMO, they have traits humans categorize as masculine. The word means "of   
   > >or relating to males" at its core, so it doesn't have much meaning out   
   > >of a sexed context.   
   >   
   > I still don't agree. Human masculine characteristics -- ability to fight   
   > and protect to be appealing to women -- still exist for the purpose of   
   > reproduction and successfully raising children, the literal goal of   
   > raising children. As the Jem'Hadar cannot reproduce and do not raise   
   > children, their fighting ability was in service to the Dominion and was   
   > not a masculine characteristic.   
   >   
   > Besides, there are plenty of examples in the animal kingdom in which   
   > females may fight, especially to protect the young. Human male and   
   > female characterists translate poorly onto other species.   
   >   
   > I go back to my earlier observation that television writers are stupid.   
      
   It sounds like you *do* agree. The whole idea doesn't make sense for the   
   Jem'Hadar.   
      
   Yet another odd thing about the Star Trek universe was how closely   
   analogous most species are to humans. Almost all of them came in male   
   and female.   
      
   This probably had a lot to do with the need to have most aliens played   
   by human actors. TNG had a planet which was supposed to be all nonbinary   
   hermaphrodites, and all of them were played by women.   
      
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