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   On Aug 12, 2025 at 12:13:13 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"  wrote:   
      
   > Melissa Hollingsworth  wrote:   
   >>  Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-   
   >>  cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this   
   >>  message:   
   >>>   
   >>>  Melissa Hollingsworth  wrote:   
   >>>>  Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-   
   >>>>  cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this   
   >>>>  message:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>  Melissa Hollingsworth  wrote:   
   >>>>>>  Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-   
   >>>>>>  cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this   
   >>>>>>  message:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you   
   could live   
   >>>>>>>  indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established   
   that it   
   >>>>>>>  went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long,   
   you   
   >>>>>>>  should just die when you walked outside.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>  So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on   
   >>>>>>  imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>  Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough   
   that   
   >>>>>  it would kill you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>  Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without   
   >>>>  food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,   
   >>>>  four days without water, forty days without food."   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>  Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are   
   >>>  living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>  Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came   
   >>>>  out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>  And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food   
   supply   
   >>>  outside the holo deck   
   >>   
   >>  Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,   
   >>  but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.   
   >>   
   >   
   > All the food replicators need is power. They don’t rearrange molecules.   
   > They just use power to make something out of nothing.   
   >   
   > However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything   
   > else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food   
   > replicators do. They can’t make real food.   
   >   
   > I’m not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they   
   > very definitely established that food replicator power is different than   
   > anything else on the ship.   
      
   Food replicator power is artificial. The rest of the ship runs on natural   
   power.   
      
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