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|    The Doctor to All    |
|    AI/LLM reviews of STNG Sub Rosa (1/2)    |
|    22 Nov 25 16:19:03    |
      XPost: rec.arts.startrek.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv       XPost: can.arts.sf       From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca              AI/LLM reviews of STNG - Sub Rosa              Google Gemini              Dr. Beverly Crusher travels to the desolate planet Caldos II for the funeral       of her beloved grandmother, Felisa Howard. While on the planet, Beverly       inherits her grandmother's property and finds Felisa's diary, which details a       passionate, century-long        affair with a mysterious figure named Ronin. Beverly soon begins to hear       Ronin's voice, feeling drawn to him, and eventually meets him in physical       form, beginning an intense, sensual relationship.              The crew investigates strange occurrences, including wild weather patterns       surrounding the estate and a mysterious candle that never seems to burn down.       It is revealed that Ronin is not a human spirit but an anaphasic energy being       residing in the family'       s antique candle. This entity has been subtly seducing, dominating, and       drawing life energy from the women in Crusher’s family line for generations,       essentially enslaving them with the promise of eternal love. The episode       concludes with Beverly        breaking Ronin's influence with assistance from Picard, destroying the entity,       and returning to the Enterprise.              Strengths              Focus on Crusher: The episode attempts to give Dr. Crusher a major storyline       centered on her family history and personal desires, which is rare in the       final seasons.              Atmosphere: The production design successfully creates a distinct, gothic, and       moody atmosphere on Caldos II, setting it apart visually from standard       Starfleet environments.              Weaknesses              Major Tone Conflict: This is the episode's biggest failing. The plot is a       blend of gothic romance and a supernatural "ghost story" that completely       violates the science-fiction framework and rationalist tone established by       seven seasons of Trek. The idea        of a sentient, candle-dwelling entity that seduces a family line is highly       incongruous.              Lack of Tension/Mystery: The mystery surrounding Ronin is often sacrificed for       overt, melodramatic romance. The audience is shown what's happening, making       the "reveal" less impactful.              Character Regression: Crusher's professional, intelligent character is largely       sidelined, as she becomes almost immediately and illogically obsessed with the       spectral lover, making decisions that seem beneath her Starfleet training and       medical expertise.              The "Anaphasic Energy Being" Retcon: The attempt to explain the "ghost" using       vague Trek technobabble (anaphasic energy) is transparently weak and fails to       justify the supernatural setup.              Overall Impression              "Sub Rosa" is widely considered one of the weakest episodes of TNG. It is an       attempt at a genre mash-up (gothic romance meets sci-fi) that unfortunately       fails to integrate the two elements, resulting in a confusing, poorly       executed, and often        embarrassing story that feels wholly disconnected from the larger series       narrative.              Rating: 2.5/10              ChatGPT              Good call — **“Sub Rosa”** (TNG S7, Ep 14) is one of the most       controversial / polarizing episodes in *The Next Generation*. Here’s my       breakdown, based on its plot (e.g. from Chakoteya and other sources) plus       critical reception — and then a        rating.              ---              ## Review of *Sub Rosa*              **What Works / Strengths**              1. **Ambitious Genre Blend**               * The episode leans into gothic-romance / ghost story territory, which is       quite different from your typical TNG plot. That risk is interesting, because       it tries to do something *new* for Trek. ([Den of Geek][1])        * According to *Den of Geek*, it combines “literary appreciation,       scientific inquiry, and silly conceits,” giving us a more atmospheric,       mood-driven story rather than just a technobabble sci-fi plot. ([Den of       Geek][1])              2. **Character Focus on Dr. Crusher**               * This is one of the few episodes that deeply centers on Beverly       Crusher’s personal / family life. That gives her emotional weight, beyond       just being the Enterprise’s doctor. ([Durfee][2])        * There is an exploration of desire: *Den of Geek* notes that the episode       addresses female sexuality more directly than typical Trek episodes. ([Den of       Geek][1])        * Gates McFadden’s performance is earnest: despite the bizarre setup, she       sells the emotional and seductive tension reasonably well.              3. **Creepy / Eerie Visuals**               * There are genuinely creepy and gothic moments (storms, the old mansion,       the candle as a receptacle) that give the episode a distinct atmosphere. ([Den       of Geek][1])        * The reveal that Ronin is not just a ghost but an “anaphasic” alien       lifeform gives a science-fiction twist to the romance / horror narrative.       ([Wikipedia][3])              4. **Thematic Depth (to an Extent)**               * Themes of legacy, family, and what we inherit (both physically and       emotionally) are present: Beverly is literally dealing with her        randmother’s past, and Ronin has “lived” through generations of her       family. ([Durfee][2])        * There’s a power / consent dynamic that’s somewhat disturbing: Ronin       exerts control, and there’s a question of agency. Some critics (e.g., from       Gameindustry) argue it parallels abusive relationships. ([Game Industry       News][4])              ---              **What Doesn’t Work / Major Criticisms**              1. **Tone Misfit & Strange Premise**               * Many feel that the gothic-romance, “sex with a ghost / candle” angle       is wildly out of place in *Star Trek*. ([Screen Rant][5])        * The Scottish-ghost mansion on an alien planet feels campy and not fully       integrated into the Trek universe in a believable way. ([Den of Geek][1])        * Critics at *Gizmodo* call the episode “unhinged” and argue that       Beverly’s agency is undermined: she is more a victim than an equal in the       relationship. ([Gizmodo][6])              2. **Character Agency / Consent Issues**               * According to some reviews, Ronin’s “seduction” is less about mutual       romance and more about manipulation. ([Game Industry News][4])        * Beverly seems to be under his influence, raising uncomfortable parallels       to possession or abuse. *Gizmodo* suggests she loses a lot of her autonomy.       ([Gizmodo][6])        * The resolution is messy: she destroys the candle / host, but the       emotional wrap-up (“whatever else he might have done, he made her       grandmother happy”) feels like a gloss rather than a true reconciliation.       ([Wikipedia][3])              3. **Critical / Fan Reception Is Largely Negative**               * On IMDb, many users rate it very low. ([IMDb][7])        * *Gizmodo* calls it one of Trek’s “lowest lows,” in terms of how it       handles character, tone, and romantic horror. ([Gizmodo][6])        * Still, it’s not universally hated: a *StarTrek.com* writer gave it       **10/10** in a list of *underrated* episodes, praising its weirdness and       emotional ambition. ([Redshirts Always Die][8])              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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