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   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Mike Dicenso wrote:   
   > On Tue, 16 May 2006, JEDIDIAH wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2006-05-16, videonovels@yahoo.com  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>> Mike Dicenso wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sat, 13 May 2006, Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Mike Dicenso wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That's the other way around I'd say.   
   >>>>>>>>>> TOS was *first*.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Voyager was never consistent with the speeds in TOS.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  TOS had it's "slow" moments, too. In "By   
   >>>>>>> Any Other Name", Kirk tells Kelvin leader Rojan that it would   
   >>>>>>> take the Enterprise "thousands" of years to reach Andromeda.   
   >>>>>>> That's grossly inconsistant with an Enterprise that in other   
   >>>>>>> episodes, like "That Which Survives", which have the ship   
   >>>>>>> crossing a thousand light years   
   >>>>>>> in a day or less. The trip to Andromeda should only take about   
   >>>>>>> 3 to 5 years.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Indeed!   
   >>>>>> And the Kelvan's themselves claimed three hundred years.   
   >>>>>> And wasn't that also the number mentioned in 'Where No One Has   
   >>>>>> Gone Before'? Or was that another galaxy?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It was 300 years at maximum warp from the far side of the   
   >>>>> Triangulum Galaxy, M33, which is farther away to begin with than   
   >>>>> Andromeda. The latest data from Sky Catalogue 2000.0, M33 is   
   >>>>> about 2.9 million ly away from the Milky Way. Add about another   
   >>>>> 100 thousands or so ly for the E-D winding up on M33's far side,   
   >>>>> and you have about 3 million ly. That means at "maximum" warp,   
   >>>>> the E-D is capable of at least 10,000c. -Mike   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And at that speed that 70,000 lightyears could be done in 7 years..   
   >>   
   >> ...assuming you can maintain max speed for 7 years straight.   
   >>   
   >> Assuming this is kinda like assuming that a Tomcat can run on   
   >> afterburners for as long as it would take it to fly out to it's   
   >> effective range.   
   >   
   >   
   > Well, if you're going to make assumptions, then why not assume it's   
   > the ship's maximum sustainable cruise speed, not it's top dash speed?   
   > There's all kinds of assumptions you can make.   
      
   Maybe somehow subspace got a lot more dense.   
   Or maybe there suddenly were safety issues not taken into account before....   
   Nah.   
      
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