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   From: jedi@nomad.mishnet   
      
   On 2006-05-16, Mike Dicenso  wrote:   
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   > On Tue, 16 May 2006, JEDIDIAH wrote:   
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   >> On 2006-05-16, videonovels@yahoo.com  wrote:   
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   >> > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> >> Mike Dicenso wrote:   
   >> >> > On Sat, 13 May 2006, Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> Mike Dicenso wrote:   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> >> >>>>>>   
   >> >> >>>>>> That's the other way around I'd say.   
   >> >> >>>>>> TOS was *first*.   
   >> >> >>>>>> Voyager was never consistent with the speeds in TOS.   
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   >> >> >>>>> .   
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   >> >> >>>  TOS had it's "slow" moments, too. In "By   
   >> >> >>> Any Other Name", Kirk tells Kelvin leader Rojan that it would take   
   >> >> >>> the Enterprise "thousands" of years to reach Andromeda.   
   >> >> >>> That's grossly inconsistant with an Enterprise that in other   
   >> >> >>> episodes, like "That Which Survives", which have the ship crossing   
   >> >> >>> a thousand light years   
   >> >> >>> in a day or less. The trip to Andromeda should only take about 3 to   
   >> >> >>> 5 years.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Indeed!   
   >> >> >> And the Kelvan's themselves claimed three hundred years.   
   >> >> >> And wasn't that also the number mentioned in 'Where No One Has Gone   
   >> >> >> Before'? Or was that another galaxy?   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > It was 300 years at maximum warp from the far side of the Triangulum   
   >> >> > Galaxy, M33, which is farther away to begin with than Andromeda. The   
   >> >> > latest data from Sky Catalogue 2000.0, M33 is about 2.9 million ly   
   >> >> > away from the Milky Way. Add about another 100 thousands or so ly for   
   >> >> > the E-D winding up on M33's far side, and you have about 3 million   
   >> >> > ly. That means at "maximum" warp, the E-D is capable of at least   
   >> >> > 10,000c. -Mike   
   >> >>   
   >> >> And at that speed that 70,000 lightyears could be done in 7 years..   
   >>   
   >> 	...assuming you can maintain max speed for 7 years straight.   
   >>   
   >> 	Assuming this is kinda like assuming that a Tomcat can run on   
   >> afterburners for as long as it would take it to fly out to it's effective   
   >> range.   
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   > Well, if you're going to make assumptions, then why not assume it's the   
   > ship's maximum sustainable cruise speed, not it's top dash speed? There's   
   > all kinds of assumptions you can make.   
      
   	I'm not making any assumptions. I am just bringing a much needed   
   dose of reality into the discussion. It is a Sci-Fi show afterall, and not   
   a FANTASY series.   
      
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