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   From: ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net   
      
   in article 446f302a$0$31638$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl, Wouter Valentijn at   
   liam@valentijn.nu wrote on 5/20/06 8:05 AM:   
      
   > ANIM8Rfsk wrote:   
   >> in article 446e3c1e$0$31645$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl, Wouter Valentijn   
   >> at liam@valentijn.nu wrote on 5/19/06 2:43 PM:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >>>> Yeah.  Archer says something like 'Warp x, XXX kilometers per   
   >>>> second' -- I forget exactly, but it had us running to check, and it   
   >>>> was a correct figure for the Whitman scale (or close enough).  He   
   >>>> gave real world speeds for a Warp factor - and it was right.  And   
   >>>> then they proceeded to go to the Klingon homeworld in a couple of   
   >>>> days, which makes it well under a light year away.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Which is of course utter nonsense.   
   >>   
   >> That pretty much sums up Enterprise doesn't it?  :-)   
   >   
   > Season four saw some redemption.   
      
   True redemption would have been Riker and Troi catching Barclay playing the   
   NX holonovel, and asking why he was mucking around with a fictional   
   Enterprise, and Reg reminding Riker that Riker put in the new rule that you   
   couldn't recreate real people in the holodecks any more . ..   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >>>> Later, during the flight to Q'onos, Archer comments that warp 4.4 =   
   >>>> 30 million kilometers per second.  That's almost exactly 100c.   
   >>>   
   >>> 'Classic' warp scale would say: 4.4^3 = 85.184 times the speed of   
   >>> light... The warp formula doesn't fit this.   
   >>> 100c would be closer to warp 4.64   
   >>   
   >> Yeah, well, Archer rounds off a lot.  :-)   
   >   
   > Good thing he isn't a surgeon.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Instead   
   >>>> of suggesting that 4.4 is faster than 4.5, it presumably implies   
   >>>> that there's some turnaround time involved at Neptune in the 4.5   
   >>>> example given earlier.   
   >>>   
   >>> Something doesn't compute. ;-)   
   >>> Or maybe something really funky happened to Neptune. :D   
   >>   
   >> Ha!  I like that.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In any case, many have pointed out the inconsistency of the Klingon   
   >>>> homeworld being only four days away in "Broken Bow".  It is   
   >>>> canonically inconsistent anyway, but even worse when you consider   
   >>>> that at 100c that would make the homeworld about a light-year   
   >>>> distant at the velocities given in the episode.   
   >>>   
   >>> And since that homeworld can't be *that* close, the actual speed   
   >>> must have been higher.   
   >>>   
   >> Yeah, that website concludes that the NX must really go 1500c or   
   >> something.   
   >   
   > At least.   
      
   In any event, yes, they gave real world numbers for warp factors, on screen,   
   in Enterprise, and then immediately proceeded to screw it up.  :-)   
      
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