XPost: alt.startrek, alt.tv.star-trek, alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise   
   XPost: rec.arts.startrek.current   
   From: jax@knickersjaxtrawstudios.com   
      
   Anybody wrote:   
   > In article <45af4a86$0$32026$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, "Jaxtraw"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> ToolPackinMama wrote:   
   >>> Jaxtraw wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>  > Have problem, fix   
   >>>> by end of show, reset, rinse, repeat.   
   >>>   
   >>> TOS was the same in that regard.   
   >>   
   >> TOS was a show of its time, 40 years ago. It had a formula, yes, as   
   >> do all shows, but it _established_ that formula- it was the first of   
   >> its kind. Voyager brought nothing new to TV or Trek or anything   
   >> else, at all.   
   >   
   > That depends what you mean by "new". You got new stories,   
      
   Really? Is it a new story if it's a "chronoton" burst through the main   
   deflector instead of a positron burst? The stories were utterly stale.   
      
   >new   
   > characters, etc.   
      
   Just a mix and match of the dreary second-wave Trek standards.   
      
   > What you didn't get is stupid new ideas that make a   
   > show which is "Star Trek" in name only.   
      
   New ideas like the complete reboot that was TNG, for instance? What did it   
   share with TOS other than some continuity and technology names? Characters?   
   No. Sets? No. Style? No.   
      
   >People like "Star Trek"   
   > because it is "Star Trek" - if you want "new", then go and watch a   
   > "new" show. Voyager was part of the established Star Trek franchise,   
   > so it's not meant to be bring anything "new".   
      
   Ye gods. Your definitions are weird.   
      
   > It's that kind of "has to be new" stupidity that is being practised in   
   > Hollyweird these and results in moronically changed, ill-fitting   
   > rubbish like Enterprise or shows that bare almost no resemblance to   
   > what they're SUPPOSEDLY part of.   :-\   
      
   I think you really need to understand that you don't somehow represent "The   
   voice of The Fans" and nobody much cares what The Fans think anyway. What   
   matters is whether it's good TV and people watch it. That's it. That's all   
   there is to it. If they make something new, and you don't like it, don't   
   watch it. You're not obligated to watch it. Vote with your remote. You can   
   still watch all the thousands of hours of thrilling Bermaga "pure" Trek if   
   you want. The endless resets, the fascinating discussions of what to route   
   through the main deflector this week, the thrilling "character who's trying   
   to be human" as he wrestles drearily with his non-humanity. Enjoy the   
   gripping "trapped in the Holodeck" episodes as if each one is as fresh as a   
   snowdrop on a spring morn. Ooh, shields are at 60%. That's never happened   
   before!   
      
   It's not "has to be new". It's "we've done that, and everybody other than   
   Anybody is fucking sick to death of it".   
      
      
   Ian   
      
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