XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-02 23:23, Chris wrote:   
   >> Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-12-02 15:11, Chris wrote:   
   >>>> wasbit  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 01/12/2025 18:04, Chris wrote:   
   >>>>>> wasbit  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 28/11/2025 19:03, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 11/28/2025 3:47 AM, wasbit wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2025 13:55, micky wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> OT?? if I'm using someone else's wifi, can he tell what's in email   
   I'm   
   >>>>>>>>>> sending or receiving, can he tell what I'm sending or receiving on   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>> web, or what I'm sending or receiving here on Usenet?.   I would   
   think   
   >>>>>>>>>> not but just want to be sure.    He's a smart guy but no tech   
   genius   
   >>>>>>>>>> afaik.  If he were a tech wiz, could he do it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> My wifi has been giving me trouble since February, and last night   
   on the   
   >>>>>>>>>> upstairs computer, the cable internet would not work either.  The   
   >>>>>>>>>> Troubleshooter said the cable wasn't in, and indeed, I had sometimes   
   >>>>>>>>>> gotten success by pushing it in further, a millimeter, but that   
   didn't   
   >>>>>>>>>> work last night.   Even though the Verizon FIOS fiberoptic phone   
   was   
   >>>>>>>>>> working and the Verizon box has a flashing led for the cable that   
   goes   
   >>>>>>>>>> to my computer.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This morning I rebooted and on its own, it connected to the wifi of   
   a   
   >>>>>>>>>> neighbor, but not to my own wifi   Hmmm after 30 minutes of using   
   his,   
   >>>>>>>>>> it just switched to my wifi.  But still not to the cable, which I   
   >>>>>>>>>> thought would take priority, plusd last night the Troubleshooter   
   said my   
   >>>>>>>>>> laptop's wifi was bad too, the one that hasn't worked since   
   February.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Hmmm! 19 replies & not a mention of bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It seems to be mostly a tale about semi-broken or half-functional kit.   
   >>>>>>>> Since the OP has his own paid Internet service, there is no   
   >>>>>>>> evidence of "100% leeching" going on, particularly. I bet the   
   >>>>>>>> OP could tighten up his settings a bit.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The OP knows he has connected to the neighbour's wifi but said nothing   
   >>>>>>> about having permission.   
   >>>>>>> Until clarified it is bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Theft requires that someone is deprived of something. Given every   
   broadband   
   >>>>>> connection is unlimited there is no "deprivation".   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Using something without paying for it is potentially fraud, however.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Every broadband connection is NOT unlimited.   
   >>>>> Mine is currently 200GB per calendar month, which was 60GB then 100GB.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You're the exception rather than the rule.   
   >>>   
   >>> Depends. Spain has a very deep fibre coverage, but there are rural areas   
   >>> without. If you have to depend on a router with a SIM card,   
   >>   
   >> That's not broadband in my book. It's mobile data.   
   >   
   > It is the mobile network, but used with fixed hardware. A router with a SIM.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> many   
   >>> providers limit the downloads per month. Even if you contract a   
   >>> limitless connection, in actual practice they have limits, and may   
   >>> severe your connection if you download movies every day.   
   >>   
   >> None of this is relevant to a neighbour accidentally connecting to your   
   >> wifi. My point is there is no theft as there's no deprivation of internet   
   >> access.   
   >   
   > They use the limited bandwidth per month of the connection. The user   
   > might find that his connection ends early and doesn't have internet on   
   > day 20.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> I had a beach residence with such a connection. Land line copper   
   >>> connection had been available, till the entire copper network was   
   >>> decommissioned, and they did not deploy fibre to every place that had   
   >>> copper previously. Just 200 meters away.   
   >>   
   >> Like I said. That's an exception.   
   >   
   > Not an exception, there are many thousand people that have to use that   
   > service because there is no fibre or copper at their homes.   
      
   Compared to the 10s of millions who don't have to resort to mobile data, it   
   is the exception.   
      
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