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   On Fri, 12/5/2025 12:15 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:   
   > Lars Poulsen  on Mon, 1 Dec 2025 21:32:37 -0000   
   > (UTC) typed in alt.comp.os.windows-11  the following:   
   >> On 2025-12-01, Paul  wrote:   
   >>> I actually started searching, to calibrate what the market is   
   >>> like, and with my search materials, the results were not pleasant   
   >>> in the least. I was shown a lot of MediaTek/Qualcomm crap, and   
   >>> once focused on x86 (well that didn't work as a search term   
   >>> either), I had to resort to N150 as a search term. As that's   
   >>> the processor-du-jour for low end stuff. Right now, that   
   >>> will get you some "mini-PC" items.   
   >>>   
   >>> The result is, it's actually hard to find anything at all   
   >>> to buy (using the search tools at hand). This is what happens   
   >>> when the dominant market forces, lose control of the market.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is hardly a good time to have four hundred million   
   >>> people throw away their PCs. It's an expensive jungle out there.   
   >>   
   >> The silver lining is that 10-year old high-end PCs becoming unusable for   
   >> windows will make for very good low-end and midrange Linux boxes.   
   >   
   > 	I would have migrated to Linux, but WordPerfect doesn't have a   
   > port. That's as far as I got in my research.   
   >   
      
   They keep records. WINE runs some things, but if a $LICENSE is associated   
   with the activity, the emulation may not be sufficiently detailed to   
   fool a license manager of a program. And don't let the ratings in this   
   page offend you, as we can't tell when this was tested.   
      
      https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=530   
      
   The WINE in something like Ubuntu, would not be properly configured.   
   You would have to turn on Multilib, in order for both WINE64   
   and WINE32 to be available. WordPerfect might have to run under   
   WINE32. Setting that pig of a WINE up, I do a *backup* of my Linux   
   before starting that, as I may have to roll back when I mess it up.   
      
   This is why sometimes a thing like a "gamer distro" may be a better   
   choice of a full fat WINE setup. Rather than starting with a   
   pan of unbaked bread, and trying to bake it yourself (as I usually   
   try to do, but don't succeed). But at least I can save you some   
   grief, by the Multilib breadcrumb. It took me quite a while to figure   
   out "how to turn on the other half". The 64-bit applications and   
   the 32-bit applications, would have a different command line invocation.   
      
      wine32 wordperfect mynotes.txt   
      
   Ubuntu is 64-bit (no 32-bit version). You can still (with a lot of   
   searching), find a 32 bit distro like a Debian, and the WINE in that would be   
   set for "wine32" and not at all for "wine64". That would make it   
   "half a solution" then. That's still not a good idea. Would a gamer   
   distro be "pure64" or would it be "multilib" ? I would think the   
   latter, so older games could be supported.   
      
   I think you can tell from the length of this post (so far), as   
   to how much fun this is :-) There was a time, before x64 came   
   along, where I've managed to get this running on the first try.   
   Now with the winetricks, it's a lot more complicated. Like   
   just understanding whether I "want Mono" or "native .NET" will   
   cause hair loss. I confuse easily. Instructions ? What instructions ???   
   [Turns lights off, works in dark...]  Yes, with enough Googlean   
   searches, anything is possible.   
      
      Paul   
      
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