XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 7 Dec 2025 02:27:21 -0500, Paul   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 12/7/2025 12:51 AM, micky wrote:   
   >   
   >>> I'm trying to install Windows Defender now. I downloaded it, and tried   
   >>> to install it, but iiuc it won't finish installation until I log into   
   >>> the MSoft store, and it won't let me log into Microsoft using my Skype   
   >>> userid and password.  I thought that was supposed to work. Or it insists   
   >>> I subscribe to something-365 and pay monthly!   
   >>   
   >> I missed the fine print.  It says I have to have a personal microft   
   >> account with a microsoft-365 personal or family subsciption.   But in   
   >> win11, I'm using Windows Defender without microsoft-365!!!!   
   >>>   
   >>> ***** Aha. Well, there you go.   So it seems to me not that I need   
   >>> Windows Defender to turn off CFA, but that since I haven't used Windows   
   >>> Defender, I don't even have CFA to begin with.  No wonder it has not   
   >>> caused any trouble.  :-)   
   >   
   >Windows Defender is a default protection on W10 or W11.   
   >   
   >If you install a third party product, that bumps Windows Defender   
   >out of the way.   
      
   Aha.  After reading this I uninstalled AVG and WinDefender wanted to be   
   enabled.  Before then it had been silent.   
   >   
   >And this has no dependency on anything 365.   
      
   Just found this:  So-called AI says ". While a separate Microsoft   
   Defender app with extra features (like cross-device protection and VPN)   
   requires a Microsoft 365 subscription, the core antivirus functionality   
   in Windows 10 is always included at no extra cost. "  When I was   
   downloading before, it said nothing about *extra* protection,and I   
   thought I was dl'ing the only version.   
      
   But everything is good now. Thanks and thanks all.   
      
      
   >I haven't tested this (but I could if you need it), it would   
   >be my guess this never left. The materials should be present   
   >   
   >*******   
   >   
   >cmd.exe                               # Use a Command Prompt, for the next cd   
   to work.   
   >   
   >cd %ProgramFiles%\Windows Defender   
   >   
   >dir   
   >   
   >Mon, 04/01/2024  02:22 AM             9,398 AmMonitoringInstall.mof   
   >Sat, 09/27/2025  01:36 PM           214,456 AMMonitoringProvider.dll   
   >Mon, 04/01/2024  02:22 AM            21,004 AmStatusInstall.mof   
      
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