XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 10/12/2025 06:42, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 12/10/25 00:27, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> On 12/9/25 19:30, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 03:38:46 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> They charge for each plastic bag you get on the exit cashier, and they   
   >>>> encourage people to buy reusable bags. Thus, we have to enter the shop   
   >>>> with empty reusable bags. It is their doing, not ours. Well, government   
   >>>> regulation, actually. Pushed by the EU.   
   >>>   
   >>> They encourage people to use them in the US. I have several but seldom   
   >>> have them with me. Besides, the plastic bags come in handy when cleaning   
   >>> the litter box.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>      Maybe they encourage people to use them in your vicinity, city,   
   >> county, state but in   
   >> San Francisco City, County of San Francisco, State of California we   
   >> are discouraged from   
   >> single use bags.  As far as it goes when I read in one of those   
   >> underground newspapers,   
   >> possibly the LA Star, that animal were badly affected by the use of   
   >> such bags I started   
   >> buying reusable bags, and hold my self-bestowed title of the Old Bag   
   >> with a Bag Full of   
   >> Bags.  That started about 45 years back.   
   >>      So nice paper bags at the stores I shop at though I seldom use   
   them.   
   >>      The plastic bags for fruit and vegetable are made out of starch   
   >> based material.   
   >>      I hear that there are problems with those as they disintegrate   
   >> but they go into   
   >> landfills where they can do it peacefully.   
   >   
   >    Cannot imagine MUCH impact on the wildlife from   
   >    ordinary thin plastic bags. They tear easily, even   
   >    a mouse could get free. My guess is that you got   
   >    an OD of Greenie Propaganda.   
   Well you gotta love the people from the village who bring their dogs   
   walking in the woods, and scoop the poop into plastic nags, and finding   
   no bins for them ,  *hang them on the trees* thereby increasing total   
   pollution and stopping the natural processes of poop digestion happening.   
      
   >   
   >    Of course it doesn't HURT anything to police your   
   >    plastic bags, so if you think you're Doing Something ...   
   >   
   >    The starch-based 'plastic' ... may depend on the exact   
   >    formulation. Some of the originals either came all   
   >    apart after just a few days exposure to moisture,   
   >    letting yer tomatoes and such escape or let nasty   
   >    germs get to your food - OR they were big lies and   
   >    NEVER disintegrated or merely came apart into some   
   >    smaller bits of forever plastic so it SEEMED they   
   >    were 'green' to the eye.   
   >   
   Most 'green tech' is virtue signalling bullshit.   
      
   >    I think the newer ones are more better.   
   >   
   >    Starch/sugar/protein-based IS a good idea ... but   
   >    getting exactly the right performance seems a   
   >    bit difficult (esp for $$$-oriented corps).   
   >   
   What IS the right performance anyway?   
   Your computer monitor turns to bio-goo in 5 years?   
   Great, thanks.   
      
   Plastic is made for burning. Just scrub the flues to get rid of the   
   chlorine, sulhur  and make it hot enough to break down the dioxins.   
   And generate some power as well.   
   Of course greens *hate* that because its too sensible.   
      
   >    But of course the News insists your brain is 80%   
   >    evil plastic specks now !   
   >   
   I tend to wonder if that isn't true in the case of Greens.   
      
   >    You have been assimilated ... resistance is futile :-)   
   >   
   >    Hmmmm ... have an instinct that sugar/protein 'plastic'   
   >    might be better than fooling with starches - easy to   
   >    micro-tweak proteins, and the sugars are the molecular   
   >    glue .....   
   >   
   Back in the day we made stuff out of wood.   
      
      
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