XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-11 14:51, Lars Poulsen wrote:   
   > On 12/10/2025 8:49 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>> Oh, in my area there are few trees. I saw the black poo bags in the   
   >>>>> ground and was astonished.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Although I have to say that it is not nice to be walking on the   
   >>>>> country and have to keep watching for poo and avoiding it. The dogs   
   >>>>> poo right in the middle of the path, not like wild creatures.   
   >   
   > When I see that, I gennerally assume that was left by someone on their   
   > way into the trail, who did not want the bag of sh*t in their pocket for   
   > the hour they will be spending there, and they intend to pick it up on   
   > their way back. And then they may forget it on their way back.   
      
   Just push it to the side.   
      
   >   
   > So if I see it again on MY way back, I'll pick it up for them.   
   >   
   > We have a number of nice trail options here:   
   > - Foothill trails, going from the suburban streets up to the crest of a   
   >    4000 ft (1200 m) front range, which is part of Los Padres National   
   >    Forest. Often have sections that is just a 1-foot wide ledge carved   
   >    into the side of the canyon carved by a mostly seasonal creek.   
   >    Dogs are officially supposed to be on leash.   
   > - An old dump turned into a park managed by a private foundation.   
   >    Dogs are explicitly allowed to be off-leash so long as they are   
   >    well-behaved, but you pay for the privilege: Each dog must have a tag   
   >    that costs USD 145 per year. Half the park is "wild" with grass that   
   >    is mostly unkempt, except that every year or two they bring in 100   
   >    sheep and goats for two weeks to "mow" it, the other half has   
   >    3 softball (i.e.  baseball) fields and two soccer/rugby/lacrosse   
   >    fields, two smallish meadows kept free of weeds, an amphitheater   
   >    that seats 200, and a "memorial trail" honoring war veterans, where   
   >    plaques lists the names of every soldier from the county that died   
   >    each year in Vietnam. We gladly pay the fee for our two dogs,   
   >    because of the greatly reduced risk of getting foxtails up (ryegrass   
   >    seedheads) up the dogs' noses. My previous beagle had to have one   
   >    surgically removed at a cost of USD 800 for a visit to the emergency   
   >    dog surgery.   
      
   WOW! :-(   
      
   It pains just thinking of it.   
      
   > The downside is that they often rent out the area with   
   >    the meadows and amphitheater for weddings, collecting $7,000 to   
   >    $20,000 for an event that closes "the upper park" to the public for a   
   >    Saturday, and sometimes a Sunday. And if there happens to be a   
   >    softball tournament AND a youth soccer tournament on the same   
   >    week-end, we dog-owners better find another place.   
   >    The total area is about 80 acres (30+ ha).   
   > - The "Douglas Family Preserve". 70 acres of coastal blufftop.   
   >    Was an abandoned plant nursery. Someone wanted to build a gated   
   >    condominium community there, and the local public raised $17 mio to   
   >    buy it to prevent that. Since the core group of fundraisers were dog   
   >    owners who had been trespassing to run their dogs there, most of the   
   >    area is off-leash permitted. My previous beagles loved to burrow into   
   >    the dense scrub areas to chase jackrabbits for hours at a time.   
   >    One of them died from Leptospirosis after drinking from a stagnant   
   >    pond ("vernal pool") in the springtime. (Hemorrhagic fever is very   
   >    ugly.)   
      
   Gosh.   
      
   >   
   > The nice park has trash cans for dogpoo and compostable bags all over.   
   > The other parks have bags and trash cans at the entrances. The mountain   
   > trails expect you to kick the shit into the bushes of down the hillside.   
      
   Nothing like that over my parts. It is pre-desert land.   
      
   I often walk up here (I don't have a dog). You can see the photos of the   
   landscape.   
      
   https://maps.app.goo.gl/WKBZDF4rkZztthpAA   
      
   It was military land up to recently.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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