XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with   
   >>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I   
   >>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were   
   >>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum   
   >>> servo-assist.   
   >>   
   >> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars   
   >> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking with   
   >> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory   
   >> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake   
   >> instead.   
   >   
   > I never drove an automatic car.   
   >   
   > I guess my left leg kicks differently than my right, because the pedals   
   > have different feeling, specially when the brake was not assisted and I   
   > had to push really hard (decades ago).   
   >   
   > Steering was also an exercise. No servo. Cars were lighter, though. Not   
   > over a ton.   
   >   
      
   	Ah you are a European with sensible designers.  In the USA a car that   
   weighed   
   under a ton would be foreign made except for a few lightweights back in   
   the 1930s.   
   	I do not think a family sedan such as my parents used weighed under 2 tons.   
   Of course that time was over 68 years ago.  And steering was real   
   exercise and   
   brakes were unassisted.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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