XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-12 06:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   > On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with   
   >>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I   
   >>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were   
   >>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum   
   >>>> servo-assist.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars   
   >>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking   
   >>> with   
   >>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory   
   >>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake   
   >>> instead.   
   >>   
   >> I never drove an automatic car.   
   >>   
   >> I guess my left leg kicks differently than my right, because the   
   >> pedals have different feeling, specially when the brake was not   
   >> assisted and I had to push really hard (decades ago).   
   >>   
   >> Steering was also an exercise. No servo. Cars were lighter, though.   
   >> Not over a ton.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Ah you are a European with sensible designers.  In the USA a car   
   > that weighed under a ton would be foreign made except for a few   
   > lightweights back in the 1930s.   
    > I do not think a family sedan such as my parents used weighed under >   
   2 tons. Of course that time was over 68 years ago.  And steering was   
   > real exercise and brakes were unassisted.   
   Uff.   
      
   Did they crash often, I wonder? Difficult to stop a 2 ton box of metal   
   in time.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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