XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-12 05:02, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 12/11/25 05:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-10 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>> On 09/12/2025 23:01, Char Jackson wrote:   
   >>>> Within the last few years, they've been replaced by a TPS, throttle   
   >>>> position sensor, that simply provides an electrical representation of   
   >>>> the throttle position to the ECU. They seem to call it TBW, throttle by   
   >>>> wire.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Something has to modulate the air input on a petrol engine.   
   >>>   
   >>> I dont think they use servos.   
   >>> On a diesel, well its different.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Clutches have been hydraulic for quite a few years, so that cable is   
   >>>> gone, as well. Good riddance to all of them. It's one less maintenance   
   >>>> item.   
   >>>   
   >>> I haven't seen a mechanically coupled  clutch (or brakes) on a 4   
   >>> wheeled vehicle since...forever! 1955 or there about maybe.   
   >>>   
   >>> Standard on bikes tho I agree.   
   >>   
   >> My father's car in which I started driving had mechanical clutch.   
   >> Probably cable. An Austin 1300. Hydraulic brakes, no servo assist.   
   >>   
   >> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had   
   >> with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe   
   >> 1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the   
   >> brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped   
   >> brutally. Vacuum servo-assist.   
   >>   
   >> My first car too also had cable clutch. A Renault Super 5 TL. This car   
   >> was bought around 1985.   
   >>   
   >> Non had assisted steering.   
   >   
   >    Once had an old car that came with power steering - except   
   >    the pump was broken and I could not afford to replace it.   
   >    THAT was a muscle-building exercise for sure !  :-)   
      
   My late Canadian cousin said he had one like that. A Ford Mustang.   
      
   >   
   >    Drove it for years. Huge engine ... indeed had to add an   
   >    electric fuel booster pump if I wanted full throttle for   
   >    more than ten seconds. Sold it to some guy who ran it   
   >    into a concrete pole at 45mph. The thing STILL ran, with   
   >    a big "U" in the front. You wouldn't WANT to drive it   
   >    of course. Good old American Heavy Metal  :-)   
   >   
   >    Now smaller cars ... power steering/brakes are nice, but   
   >    not NECESSARY. It was quite easy to drive a mid 60s car   
   >    without such add-ons.   
   >   
   >    A lot of 'accessories' were added to automobiles not   
   >    so much because they were necessary - but instead   
   >    because they were an advertising point.   
   >   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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