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   rbowman to The Natural Philosopher   
   Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags...   
   12 Dec 25 18:21:28   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: bowman@montana.com   
      
   On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:35:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
      
   > On 11/12/2025 22:14, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:17:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Softwood plantations are a major industry in Canada, and in IIRC   
   >>> Norway,. which is where our constructional lumber and pulp paper comes   
   >>> from.   
   >>   
   >> No, Canada cuts down the existing forests. The problem in northern   
   >> forests is it takes up to 100 years to get marketable timber.   
   >> Plantations work in the southeast US where there is plenty of water and   
   >> a longer growing season.   
   >>   
   > Canadian Reforestation   
      
   That is quite a bit different from a plantation. I hike in areas that were   
   cut over in the '50s and reforested. Some of the clear cut areas never   
   fully recovered. They would leave a couple of seed trees and hope for the   
   best. Other areas are doing better.   
      
   Going back to the 19th century railroads were given a checkerboard pattern   
   of one square mile sections along their right of way to use for their   
   purposes.  Over time the grants fell into private hands and were   
   harvested. In the last 35 years the ownership here has went from Champion   
   to Plum Creek, and finally Weyerhauser. At this time Weyerhauser is mostly   
   in the real estate business selling the tracts off since they see no   
   harvestable lumber in the future.   
      
   The last lumber mill within 100 miles shut down last year. Along with the   
   dearth of timber from private lands, fewer timber sales on Forest Service   
   lands, and competition from Canada what used to be a major part of the   
   state economy is almost gone. The tariffs on Canadian lumber are too   
   late.   
      
   Maybe Canada can make reforestation work. The Quebec larch program is   
   interesting. The eastern larch is a scrawny thing that they must have   
   figured out how to pulp.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larix_laricina   
      
   It's rather like the fisheries. After you burn through the cod and halibut   
   you figure out how to use species that used to be cat food. Both the US   
   and Canada started cutting forests in the east and moved west when the   
   trees were gone. It's only very recently that sustainable forestry has   
   become popular.   
      
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