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|    12 Dec 25 18:21:28    |
      XPost: comp.os.linux.misc       From: bowman@montana.com              On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:35:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:              > On 11/12/2025 22:14, rbowman wrote:       >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:17:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:       >>       >>> Softwood plantations are a major industry in Canada, and in IIRC       >>> Norway,. which is where our constructional lumber and pulp paper comes       >>> from.       >>       >> No, Canada cuts down the existing forests. The problem in northern       >> forests is it takes up to 100 years to get marketable timber.       >> Plantations work in the southeast US where there is plenty of water and       >> a longer growing season.       >>       > Canadian Reforestation              That is quite a bit different from a plantation. I hike in areas that were       cut over in the '50s and reforested. Some of the clear cut areas never       fully recovered. They would leave a couple of seed trees and hope for the       best. Other areas are doing better.              Going back to the 19th century railroads were given a checkerboard pattern       of one square mile sections along their right of way to use for their       purposes. Over time the grants fell into private hands and were       harvested. In the last 35 years the ownership here has went from Champion       to Plum Creek, and finally Weyerhauser. At this time Weyerhauser is mostly       in the real estate business selling the tracts off since they see no       harvestable lumber in the future.              The last lumber mill within 100 miles shut down last year. Along with the       dearth of timber from private lands, fewer timber sales on Forest Service       lands, and competition from Canada what used to be a major part of the       state economy is almost gone. The tariffs on Canadian lumber are too       late.              Maybe Canada can make reforestation work. The Quebec larch program is       interesting. The eastern larch is a scrawny thing that they must have       figured out how to pulp.              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larix_laricina              It's rather like the fisheries. After you burn through the cod and halibut       you figure out how to use species that used to be cat food. Both the US       and Canada started cutting forests in the east and moved west when the       trees were gone. It's only very recently that sustainable forestry has       become popular.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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