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   Carlos E.R. to But I still do not understand what    
   Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags...   
   16 Dec 25 21:42:46   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.misc   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-15 06:57, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 12/14/25 07:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-14 06:18, c186282 wrote:   
   >>> On 12/13/25 15:06, rbowman wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:00:19 -0500, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Usually on a clear cut lot, there are lots and lots of   
   >>>>> "stumps" and nobody gives a shit about those. That's why the   
   >>>>> field in that video is suspiciously "too good to be true".   
   >>>>> As the years pass, the stumps will rot and be digested like   
   >>>>> normal. It's just the stumps are a hazard right after a   
   >>>>> clear cut session.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In this area, make that 'many years'. We had a bad fire in   
   >>>> 2003 that took some areas down to mineral soil. Long after the   
   >>>> fire stumps were still burning out the underground root   
   >>>> systems. 22 years later you still have to be careful off trail   
   >>>> not to step in a pit. The areas were not replanted so there   
   >>>> are very few trees.   
   >>>   
   >>>    This is what happened in California ... nobody was   
   >>>    allowed to dig and put out the burning roots. Two   
   >>>    weeks later and ........   
   >>   
   >> What happened?   
   >   
   >    Ummm ... missed THAT news ???   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires   
   >   
   >    HUGE, widespread, EXPENSIVE damage and some deaths.   
   >   
   >    Even made the Euro news.   
      
      
   Yes, I remember there were huge fires. The most worrisome were inside   
   the city. Unstoppable.   
      
   But I still do not understand what you said about the roots. :-?   
      
      
      
   ...   
      
   >>>> The areas managed by the Forest Service have made out better.   
   >>>> I've helped mark out a few timber sales. The trees to go are   
   >>>> sprayed blue at breast height and the roots, the keepers   
   >>>> orange. The lower paint is to keep people honest since you can   
   >>>> tell what was cut from the stump. Often though the sale is   
   >>>> never bid on since selective harvesting is more expensive.>>>   
   >>>    I've seen many replant areas. Yes, trees grow - but   
   >>>    the replanting puts them too close together. No sun   
   >>>    gets to the ground, it's not a complete ecosystem.   
   >>>    In the interim period there's a lot of soil erosion.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Here they tried putting straw on the ground to reduce erosion.   
   >   
   >   
   >    Um ... straw BURNS.   
      
   Yes, but the fires were out.   
      
   >   
   >    Also not sure it fully qualifies as 'ground-cover' in   
   >    the 'natural' sense. Proper ground-cover includes a   
   >    number of plant/mold/fungi species and a certain   
   >    inventory of insects and worms. These "pre-process"   
   >    stuff falling from the trees and blowing in from the   
   >    general environment - releasing a variety of nutrients.   
   >    The fungi also bind the soil and help hold moisture.   
   >   
   >   
   >    A proper forest eco-system is hard to fake.   
      
   I suppose they thought the straw would help meanwhile.   
      
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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