From: lars@beagle-ears.com   
      
   (1) CallCentric.Com   
      
   I have been using CallCentric for several years at work and at home,   
   including international calls. Barebones; low-cost.   
      
   Basically do-it-yourself with minimal support, but quite reliable.   
   Got hacked a few times, someone figured out how to make our office   
   phones call "900" type numbers overseas, running up 50-dollar-a-day   
   bills for playing muzak on our office desk phones in speaker mode.   
   Provided a quick-study lesson in how to (a) improve our firewall   
   connection filters and (b) restrict our outdial permissions.   
      
   We use Grandstream desk phones and my users are pretty happy.   
   Our typical monthly phone bill for 4 (light) users is $10-$20   
   TOTAL.   
      
   I also used it for international calls from my home cellphone to   
   family in Denmark. I call my brother for 30-60 minutes every   
   Saturday, and AT&T Mobility rates get pretty expensive for that.   
   I was very happy, until they switched up the rates (to a landline   
   phone in Copenhagen) from 7 cents/minute to 27 cents/minute a   
   year ago. Something about the called number being a "national"   
   number. Anyway, they wouldn't budge.   
      
   So now my home VoIP is on VoIP.Ms   
      
   (2) VoIP.Ms   
      
   Very easy to setup for one phone (deskset, ATA or Smartphone).   
   For two or more "extensions", you have to configure a sub-account   
   for each, and it's complicated enough that after 3 months, I have not   
   yet gotten around to do it.   
      
   Rates are great, the service works well. Again, effectively no   
   support.   
      
   --   
   Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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