XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > Char Jackson  wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 20:09:35 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>I always shut down my desktop PC as well as switching power to the PC   
   >>>off!! Basically all electronics in my room is powered off, not even in   
   >>>soft standby mode.   
   >>   
   >> I shut down my desktop PC when I need to do some work inside, which   
   >> seems to be less than once a year lately. I reboot it 2, maybe 3, times   
   >> per year, after installing updates.   
   >>   
   >> I can't remember the last time I shut down my laptop. I use sleep or   
   >> hibernate, depending on the circumstances. Like the desktop, the laptop   
   >> gets rebooted 2-3 times a year.   
   >   
   >   Can you please stop being sensible!? :-) Don't you know that Windows   
   > systems must be shutdown/rebooted at least once a day and preferably   
   > more often.   
      
   Hi Frank Slootweg,   
      
   For what it is worth, my "sensible" situation (like that of many on this   
   newsgroup) is that I don't throw away hardware that has worked for years.   
      
   My decisions are dictated, in part, by my hardware, where my desktop is   
   from around 2009 and therefore it cannot support Windows 11, S0 low power   
   idle, or any of the newer sleep/hibernate mechanisms. The firmware in my   
   desktop only exposes S1 and S3, and hibernation is not available at all.   
      
   Modern systems use S0 Low Power Idle (Modern Standby), which the firmware   
   on my desktop (and that of many on this newsgroup) does not support.   
      
   Given that limitation, a full shutdown is the most reliable option for me.   
      
   The machine has been solid for years as long as I start it cleanly, and   
   since I do not need it running overnight for ad hoc or last-minute updates,   
   it's perfectly "sensible" for me to shut down the PC when I go to bed.   
      
   It's just as "sensible" for me to power up the PC in the morning when I get   
   up to make my coffee, where the PC is booted by the time I sit at my desk.   
      
   For this "sensible" situation, shutdown is the correct technical choice.   
      
   Newer systems can take advantage of sleep, hybrid sleep, hibernate, and   
   fast startup. Older systems cannot. Both approaches are valid depending on   
   the capabilities of the machine and of the needs & goals of the user.   
      
   Your claim that it's not "sensible" to take into account the hardware and   
   use model notwithstanding, my goal in running this survey was simply   
   to learn from others how they handle their hardware and use model.   
      
   You may note that I never claimed anyone else's use model was not   
   'sensible' simply by the fact that their use model may differ from mine.   
      
   I believe and recommend that you should follow my 'sensible' lead, Frank.   
   --   
   All my assessments are based on a deep study of Occam's Razor constraints.   
      
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