XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows   
   From: MikeS@fred.com   
      
   On 25/01/2026 20:40, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>> My decisions are dictated, in part, by my hardware, where my desktop is   
   >>> from around 2009 and therefore it cannot support Windows 11, S0 low   
   >>> power   
   >>> idle, or any of the newer sleep/hibernate mechanisms. The firmware in my   
   >>> desktop only exposes S1 and S3, and hibernation is not available at all.   
   >>>   
   >>> Modern systems use S0 Low Power Idle (Modern Standby), which the   
   >>> firmware   
   >>> on my desktop (and that of many on this newsgroup) does not support.   
   >>   
   >>   I'm not talking about any 'modern' power states, like Modern Standby,   
   >> but like old-fashioned  Sleep (S3), which you do have, and old-fashioned   
   >> Hibernate (S4).   
   >>   
   >>   You say that you don't have Hibernate, but I think it's more likely   
   >> you have not enabled Hibernate or/and do not have a hiberfil.sys file.   
   >>   
   >>   Hibernate exists since decades, so it's unlikely that a 2009 machine   
   >> doesn't have it.   
   >>   
   >>   Anyway, with just Sleep most things - except RAM - should power down   
   >> or go to a low-power state, ready to resume all your active programs in   
   >> seconds (if that) instead of the time you now need to get a coffee.   
   >>   
   >>   But how you use your system is your choice and your choice only.   
   >>   
   >>   My little sting about being sensible was just in jest (hence the   
   >> smiley). Many people shutdown their systems for no reason. They just   
   >> think that's the way to do it and do not realize what their options are.   
   >>   
   >>   When I'm going to use my computer, I don't have to turn it on, I don't   
   >> have to boot it, I don't have to wait for Windows to fully start, I don't   
   >> have to wait for a sign-on to finish to the Desktop and I don't have to   
   >> wait to restart all my programs/windows. I just tap the keyboard or the   
   >> 'mouse' and am back where I left off, in a few seconds (if that much).   
   >>   
   >>   It's notable that people Char and I, who are used to (also) work with   
   >> laptops, use the sleep/hibernate mechanisms, while people who only   
   >> use(d) 'desktops' have a strong tendency to shutdown/turn-off at the end   
   >> of the day and turn-on/boot_etc. in the morning.   
   >   
   > Hi Frank,   
   >   
   > Thanks for requesting me to clarify my situation with this particular   
   > machine with respect to whether hibernation is possible if desired.   
   >   
   > Here is my "powercfg -a" output:   
   > Runbox > cmd {ctrl+shft+rtn} > UAC > Yes   
   > C:\> powercfg -a      The following sleep states are available on this   
   > system:   
   >        Standby (S1 S3)   
   >   
   >       The following sleep states are not available on this system:   
   >        Standby (S2)   
   >       The system firmware does not support this standby state.   
   >   
   >       Hibernate   
   >        Hibernation has not been enabled.   
   >   
   >       Standby (S0 Low Power Idle)   
   >        The system firmware does not support this standby state.   
   >   
   >       Hybrid Sleep   
   >        Hibernation is not available.   
   >   
   >       Fast Startup   
   >        Hibernation is not available.   
   >   
   > At first, I interpreted that to mean Hibernation is not possible, but in   
   > reality, after deeper inspection, that hibernation line is ambiguous unless   
   > I test further, because Windows uses that same wording at different times.   
   > A. Hibernate exists but is disabled because hiberfil.sys is missing   
   > B. Hibernate does not exist because the firmware does not expose S4   
   >   
   > To know for sure, at an admin prompt, I tried to turn it on:   
   > C:\> powercfg /hibernate on   
   >       Hibernation failed with the following error:      There is not   
   > enough space on the disk.   
   >       The following items are preventing hibernation on this system.   
   >       The system could not create the hibernation file.      The   
   > specific error code is 0xc000007f.   
   >   
   > So, as you kindly had suggested, hibernate does exist on my machine.   
   > Windows attempted to enable it, and the firmware did not block it.   
   >   
   > If the firmware did not support S4, I would have seen:   
   > "The system firmware does not support hibernation."   
   > Instead, Windows tried to create hiberfil.sys and failed due to disk space.   
   > The error code 0xc000007f is STATUS_DISK_FULL.   
   >   
   > Since I have 16GB of RAM, about 16 GB of free space is required for a full   
   > hibernation file, whereas a fast-startup reduced hibernation file might   
   > only require about 40% of my RAM (or 6.4GB free space on the C: drive).   
   >   
   I routine use hibernation, fast startup turned off. With 16GB RAM   
   hiberfil.sys is currently 6.07GB.   
      
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