XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, misc.taxes   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Herbert Kleebauer wrote:   
   > On 1/28/2026 9:56 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   >> Chris wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>> At home I try to install it on Windows 10, and it says it won't load.   
   >>>>> Apparently it needs Windows 11.   
   >>>>> Why?   
   >>>>> What on earth could TurboTax need that only Windows 11 can supply?   
   >   
   > Don't ask this question in usenet but ask Google:   
   > https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/articles/community-news-anno   
   ncements/turbotax-windows-10-desktop-software-end-of-life/05/3708302   
      
   Hi Herbert,   
      
   Since we strive to add value in every thread, here's a summary of that   
   helpful link so that others can benefit from us both reading it now.   
       
     Intuit announced that TurboTax Desktop (personal editions) for Tax Year   
     2025 and beyond will not run on Windows 10. Only Windows 11 or later   
     will be supported. TurboTax Desktop Business editions will support   
     Windows 10 for one final year (TY2025), but after that, business   
     users must also purchase Windows 11 or switch to TurboTax Online.   
      
   Why Intuit says they're doing this   
    a. Intuit erroneously states that Microsoft ended free security updates   
       for Windows 10 on October 14, 2025.   
    b. Intuit also erroneously states that Microsoft only offers a paid   
       ESU (Extended Security Updates) program for consumers, but Intuit   
       claims it only covers critical fixes and Intuit additionally claims   
       "very few consumers" will buy it.   
    c. Intuit says running tax software on an OS without full security   
       support is too risky and yet Intuit is clueless that full security   
       support is free (and paid) for Windows 10 up to at least October 26.   
      
   True to their marketing roots, Intuit apparently says if you buy TurboTax   
   Desktop 2025 and can't install it because you're on Windows 10, Intuit will   
   offer you TurboTax Online Premium at no extra cost, including:   
    1 federal return   
    1 state return   
   But if I had wanted to use insecure online software, I never would have   
   purchased the desktop versions in the first place over all these years.   
      
   Much like Apple propaganda, the Intuit message frames their arbitrary and   
   yet unnecessarily Draconian marketing decision as a 'security necessity',   
   but Intuit marketing, at the same time, also heavily promotes TurboTax   
   Online by emphasizing features not available in the desktop version.   
      
   >>>> Are these people idiots ?   
   >   
   > Are Microsoft or Adobe idiots because they don't want to   
   > sell Office or Photoshop but only sell an abo?   
      
   I think her point was that half the world is on Windows 10, and that   
   there's no reason for requiring Windows 11 and that no other tax software   
   (that we know of) made this Draconian decision, and my point is that it's   
   not something you'd even "think" of looking for in the fine print.   
      
   >> When only Intuit tax software suddenly and almost secretly becomes   
   >> incompatible, and when NO OTHER TAX SOFTWARE did this, something is amiss.   
   >   
   > Suddenly?   
      
   The package looks no different, overall, from all the other packages:   
       
   Although, if you knew to look for the fine print, it does say it:   
        
      
   But checking for that fine print after using the software for decades is   
   sort of like buying a microwave and realizing it won't run unless your   
   Wi-Fi router is the newest standard that only half the world is on.   
      
   See also:   
       
     Intuit's support page explains that TurboTax Desktop 2025 will not run   
     on Windows 10. Only Windows 11 (64-bit) or later is supported.   
     If you're still on Windows 10 after October 14, 2025, you must   
     either purchase a Windows 11 PC or switch to TurboTax Online.   
      
   Yet again, Intuit erroneously claims that Windows 10 ESU doesn't exist.   
   TurboTax Desktop Business will still run on Windows 10 for Tax Year 2025.   
      
   >|| Today, we sent a reminder communication to our valued Windows 10   
   >|| Desktop customers informing them that TurboTax Desktop personal   
   >|| software for tax year 2025 and beyond will require Windows 11 or   
   >|| future operating systems.   
   >   
   >   
   >> But no more.   
   >> When a marketing organization is that hostile to customers, they're out.   
   >   
   > The marketing organization has to generate income for the company:   
      
   This isn't the first time Intuit blindsided its loyal users though, so, for   
   me, it's simply the straw that broke the camel's back because a punitive   
   action like this with no underlying justification says a lot about Intuit.   
    1. Intuit sneakily removed key schedules from Deluxe around tax year 2014   
    2. Intuit sneakily added the Internet requirement around tax year 2022   
    3. Intuit enforced the privacy-robbing account around tax year 2023   
    4. Intuit enforced an unnecessary Windows 11 requirement in tax year 2025   
      
   I have found that H&R Block Deluxe + State (desktop) is about the same   
   price for one federal e-file and one state e-file as the Costco sale is.   
      
   My main question is what have people found is their experience when   
   ditching TurboTax in favor of the equivalent H&R Block product line?   
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