XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, misc.taxes   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   >>> The only idiots are people buying something that is clearly incompatible   
   >>> with their needs and then complain about it.   
   >>   
   >> Does the box clearly say in reasonable sized lettering that it is   
   >> Windows 11 only?   
   >   
   > See if you can spot it? ;)   
      
   When we buy TurboTax, we always buy the same version (e.g., Deluxe,   
   Premiere, etc.) but that's all that normally matters because nowadays, it's   
   just a software key since you actually download the installation program.   
      
   There's nothing in the box but the key, Chris.   
   So why would you be reading the fine print on the box?   
      
   Deluxe is Deluxe and always has been (except in 2014, but that's a detail).   
      
   Imagine you have been buying the same brand of kitchen blender every year   
   for twenty years. It has always worked with any normal wall outlet, and   
   every other blender on the market still works with the same outlet.   
      
   Then suddenly the new model refuses to run unless your house has a brand   
   new type of electrical socket that only half the homes in the country even   
   have.   
      
   The company claims the old socket is "no longer supported," but you then   
   find out that the commercial version of the exact same blender still works   
   perfectly fine with the old socket for another full year.   
      
   That is the same situation here. We have been buying TurboTax Desktop for   
   decades, there has never been a need to check for a strange new   
   requirement, no competing tax software requires Windows 11, and Intuit's   
   own business edition proves their justification is not true.   
      
   It is not something any reasonable person would think to check in the fine   
   print.   
      
   >>>> They are going to lose half of their user   
   >>>> base.  Windows 10 is still the prevalent home pc software.   
   >>>   
   >>> Windows 11 has been around over four years and win10 was officially EOL's   
   >>> last October. Totally not unreasonable for a financial organisation to   
   >>> remove support for out-of-date platforms.   
   >>   
   >> Windows 10 is still under official support. M$ changed minds.   
   >   
   > Nope. They still state clearly it is EOL.   
   > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-support   
   has-ended-on-october-14-2025-2ca8b313-1946-43d3-b55c-2b95b107f281   
   >   
   > Yes, ESU exists, but is a limited fig leaf to soften the blow.   
      
   Windows 10 ESU is supported by Microsoft, Chris.   
      
   And worse, you have to purchase a new Windows 11 machine to use TurboTax   
   desktop, which is a pretty big penalty for something that's not needed.   
      
   Plus, the justification is based on brazen lies, so that is evidence that   
   it's more of a marketing pitch than a serious concern of Intuit.   
      
   >> Otherwise, it is somewhat ridiculous for a software to demand a certain   
   >> version of the operating system if there is not actual need.   
   >   
   > These are never technical decisions. Either risk mitigation or commercially   
   > driven.   
      
   It's clear Intuit is pushing people toward their cloud offerings, Chris,   
   especially when they base their justification on brazen lies like they did.   
      
   Since you own an iPhone, you're familiar with that tactic, are you not?   
      
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