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   Maria Sophia to All   
   Re: Can we send an email DIRECTLY to Use   
   29 Jan 26 15:27:56   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, news.software.readers   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Drat. I goofed in the newsgroup header line (which is entered manually).   
      
   Correcting the newsgroup header line (which I type in manually) from:   
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers   
   alt.comp.os.windows11   
    Subject: Can we send an email DIRECTLY to Usenet ng moderators using Windows   
   Thunderbird/Betterbird?   
    Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 15:20:04 -0500   
    Message-ID: <10lgfdk$1urc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
   To:   
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers   
   alt.comp.os.windows-11   
      
   Full post repeated below for continuity.   
      
   Q: Can we send an email DIRECTLY to Usenet ng moderators using TB/BB?   
   A: ?   
      
   BACKGROUND:   
   I wrote my own Windows newsreader but it doesn't call Thunderbird when a   
   post to a moderated group fails. Yet, looking up why, apparently most   
   modern newsreaders fall back to sending email to the moderator via the MUA.   
    From: Maria Sophia    
    Newsgroups:   
   alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers,alt.comp.os.windows-10   
    Subject: The perils of writing your own newsreader - the perils of posting   
   to moderated newsgroups   
    Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:06:28 -0500   
    Message-ID: <10lgb3k$1sok$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
   But can we send an email DIRECTLY to the moderators using Thunderbird?   
   Since I look things up before I ask them here, apparently we can do that.   
      
   Tutorial: Sending a moderated Usenet post via Thunderbird / Betterbird   
   Objective: Send an article to a moderated ng by email using Thunderbird.   
      
   1. Open a new message   
       i. In Thunderbird, click:   
       ii. Write (New Message)   
      
   2. Enable the "Newsgroups" header field (do this once)   
      a. In the compose window, click the three dots (More)   
      b. Choose: Customize From/To/Cc/Bcc...   
      c. Check: Newsgroups   
      d. Click: OK   
      e. We should now see a "Newsgroups:" field in the header area   
      
      For my Betterbird version 102.10.1-bb34 (64-bit) on Windows   
      i. There is no three-dots menu   
      ii. There is no "To:" dropdown   
      iii. There is no "View > Headers"   
      iv. Ctrl+Shift+F9 does nothing   
      v. There is no gear icon to the right of the "To" line   
      vi. Ctrl+L does nothing   
      vii. mail.compose.other.header = Newsgroups does nothing   
      etc.   
      So these instructions are for Thunderbird only (therefore untested).   
      
   3. Fill in the headers (back in Thunderbird)   
      To: misc-taxes-moderated@moderators.isc.org   
      Newsgroups: misc.taxes.moderated   
      Subject: Methods to calculate & file USA taxes with privacy on Windows   
      From: You    
      
      Drat. I can't find an alt.test.moderated Usenet newsgroup.   
      
   4. Paste your article body   
       i. In the message body area, paste the text to be posted   
       ii. (no extra headers\ are needed here).   
      
   5. Send the message   
       i. Click:   
       ii. Send   
      
   What Thunderbird (apparently) adds automatically:   
      A. Adds Date:   
      B. Adds Message-ID:   
      C. Adds MIME headers (Content-Type, etc.)   
      D. Handles encoding and SMTP delivery   
      
   What we must provide:   
      A. To: misc-taxes-moderated@moderators.isc.org   
      B. Newsgroups: misc.taxes.moderated   
      C. Subject:   
      D. From:   
      E. Article body   
      
   N.B.   
   That is apparently the minimum for a valid moderated Usenet submission.   
   Please advise if this ad hoc tutorial needs to be modified for your needs.   
   Apparently there no longer is an alt.test.moderated to use to test with.   
      
   Drat. I just tested this with Betterbird 102.10.1-bb34 (64-bit).   
   None of the menus above exist in Betterbird.   
   Apparently that's because Betterbird uses a Simplified Header UI.   
      
   Apparently Betterbird 102 is optimized for email, not for news posting, and   
   the developers removed the UI for adding arbitrary headers, including   
   Newsgroups.   
      
   Apparently Thunderbird 102 still has it but Betterbird 102 does not.   
      
   If you know how to get it to work with Betterbird, let me know.   
   If it works for you with Thunderbird, let us all know also.   
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