XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, news.software.readers   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2026/1/30 23:29:13, Arlen wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> Like you, I have never subscribed to a moderated group, so I have never   
   >> thought about it, in decades. I simply thought that the news protocol   
   >> would know about it and handle it "somehow".   
   >   
   > Thanks for discussing this topic which it seems most of us haven't thought   
   > much about as we rarely post to moderated newsgroups, and, for the most   
   > part, when we did, it just worked. So we didn't think much about 'how'.   
      
   Well, it seems clear to me that posts to a moderated newsgroup have to   
   be sent to the moderator first (as emails?).   
      
   >   
   > I think, based on my tests, that the normal process is that the news server   
   > admin decides which moderated groups he wants to peer and then he figures   
   > out how each moderated group wants to be notified, where, it seems, as John   
   > Gilliver noted, "in some cases there's a sort of central clearinghouse".   
      
   It hadn't occurred to me that newsservers might do this; I had the   
   impression that news clients did.   
      
   >   
   > I think that address might be -moderated@moderators.isc.org   
   > based on these tests with distinctly different results in that regard.   
      
   When setting up Turnpike, some decades ago, I got the impression that   
   the default for moderated 'groups _was_ some common address; the above   
   rings a faint bell.   
      
   If the _client_ does it - which would seem a more efficient way, after   
   all why involve the newsserver if that can be avoided - then the list of   
   newsgroups must contain a flag for the ones that are moderated, so that   
   the client knows to treat posts to it differently. (Posts _in_ it - i.   
   e. from other posters, that have already been passed by the moderator[s]   
   - can be treated the same as those in any other 'group.)   
      
   As such, moderated 'groups must have some flag in the news client. I   
   have a feeling there was such an indication in Turnpike. I've just   
   looked at the properties of this 'group in Thunderbird, and I can't   
   _see_ a "moderated" indication that isn't ticked, but maybe it only   
   appears at all on moderated ones?   
      
   ISTR there was also some mechanism for entering a different moderator   
   from the default (@moderators.isc.org) one for 'groups that had a   
   moderator whose address wasn't part of that organisation. (That -   
   isc.org - is probably what I was [mis?]remembering as a central   
   organisation - not really a clearinghouse.)   
   []   
      
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