From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 2/7/2026 11:16 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > Ed Cryer  wrote:   
   >> Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>> Ed Cryer  wrote:   
   >>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I found out that in the Power Options for Win11 there's the option to   
   >>>>>> choose what happens with shutdown, and mine was set to Sleep.   
   >>>   
   >>> where *exactly* that is, because AFAWK, there is no setting which sets   
   >>> *shutdown* to sleep.   
   >>   
   >> Well, Frank, we'll change roles. I'll be the omniscient Win11 expert,   
   >> and you can be the humble student willing to learn    (:-   
   >>   
   >> Lesson one;   
   >> Control Panel   
   >> Power options   
   >> Choose what the power buttons do.   
   >>   
   >> My "When I press the power button" was set to "Sleep". After changing it   
   >> to "Shut down" my "improper shutdown error" didn't occur.   
   >   
   >   But this setting is about the *physical* power button. As you say,   
   > you only use the ('Shut down' choice of) the *software* power button (on   
   > the Start menu), this 'incorrect' setting of the action of the physical   
   > power button should be irrelevant. So something is very strange here.   
   >   
   >   As I mentioned, my wife's Mini-PC has the same 'wrong' Sleep setting   
   > for "Choose what the power buttons do" and it never gave a problem.   
   >   
   >   BUT, to be [f|F]rank, I hardly ever use the software 'Shut down'   
   > function. The system is just active or sleeping or in hibernate, no need   
   > for 'Shut down'. Once a month at Windows Update time, the system does a   
   > 'forced' Restart, but that's a Restart, not a Shut down.   
   >   
   >   Anyway, if the "improper shutdown error" problem is gone, all is good,   
   > I suppose.   
   >   
   >   BTW, a minor correction to earlier information: I said that when the   
   > 'power' LED of the machine is off, it's safe to disconnect power, but on   
   > my wife's Mini-PC I saw that that LED also turns off when the machine is   
   > sleeping, so - at least on that machine - it's not just a simple *power*   
   > LED.   
   >   
      
      
   Isn't there supposed to be a flashing LED during (pure) sleep ?   
      
   There should be some indication that the machine is in a   
   fragile state (like, don't turn off the power on the back).   
      
   Perhaps what a LED-off indicates, is the machine is in   
   Hybrid Sleep, and removing the power does no permanent damage   
   (the hiberfil.sys has the session). Just the loading time will   
   be a bit longer on the next button push.   
      
      Paul   
      
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