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   =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=? to knuttle   
   Re: MS NAGGING   
   14 Feb 26 19:00:38   
   
   From: winstonmvp@gmail.com   
      
   knuttle wrote on 2/14/2026 4:19 PM:   
   > On 02/14/2026 1:39 PM, Paul wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 2/14/2026 10:45 AM, knuttle wrote:   
   >>> Why does Microsoft feel that it is necessary to nag the user the   
   >>> minute the Update is available? If you don't update when MS thinks you   
   >>> should, it nags by randomly making simple things respond differently   
   >>> or not respond at all. The events will occur every few seconds until   
   >>> the update is installed.  Through the years I have observed the same   
   >>> thing on several different computers using different mice.   
   >>>   
   >>> These events occur randomly, maybe one time the program does not open,   
   >>> and a few minutes later it opens normally.  Maybe when you click on a   
   >>> function it works normally, the next time it may not respond or act   
   >>> differently.  There is not one thing specifically, but many tiny   
   >>> random events to cause significant frustration.   
   >>>   
   >>> The minute the update is made, all these random events disappear, and   
   >>> everything returns to normal   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> This is caused by services stopping and starting.   
   >>   
   >> To update a file on a service "hot", one way to do it is   
   >> stop the service, insert the new files, then start the service again.   
   >>   
   >> But this can have side effects on applications that might be   
   >> using the service! Even the StartExperience could be perturbed,   
   >> and there have been some "famously bad" incidents, such as the   
   >> "dancing icons" thing I experienced here once. This is why we   
   >> own powerful video cards, so the icons can dance faster.   
   >>   
   >> A lot of the installation process can be done while the OS is   
   >> running. At shutdown/restart, the PendMoves can be completed, for   
   >> any materials that must wait for a quiet moment to be inserted.   
   >>   
   >> None of it absolutely has to be done this way, but that is the   
   >> evolution story. They could maintain a constant service landscape,   
   >> by not working on services "in your face" so to speak. They   
   >> could easily shut down, and do any amount of installation   
   >> without you being able to use the screen. For example, the SearchIndexer   
   >> could be shut off, Sysmain could be shut off, Windows Defender could be   
   >> shut off, the installer could just concentrate on getting the job done.   
   >> Wouldn't that be neat ? Maybe I should get a job there, delivering   
   >> the mail.   
   >>   
   >>     Paul   
   >>   
   > Thanks.    It is good to know I am not having hallucinations.   
   >   
   > There have been times when I am on the verge of throwing the computer on   
   > the floor because it is not work right.   I remember the update problem,   
   > update, and the problems disappear.   
      
   For both Win10 22H2(two devices - desktop, Surface) and Win11 25H2 I've   
   never experienced a 'device not working right' problem when an update is   
   available or installing or pending restart(when required).   
      
   Possibly the reason not having those symptoms is the hardware having more   
   than sufficent specs(RAM, SSD, CPU etc.) for its(my) usage pattern and   
   history.   
      
   Care to elaborate more on specifics.   
     e.g.   
     - what simple things respond differently?   
     - what events occur every *few seconds*?   
     - why you chose to include that issues occur when using different mice   
   on different devices.   
      
      
      
      
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