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|    =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=? to knuttle    |
|    Re: MS NAGGING    |
|    15 Feb 26 08:18:58    |
      From: winstonmvp@gmail.com              knuttle wrote on 2/15/2026 5:10 AM:       > On 02/14/2026 9:00 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:       >> knuttle wrote on 2/14/2026 4:19 PM:       >>> On 02/14/2026 1:39 PM, Paul wrote:       >>>> On Sat, 2/14/2026 10:45 AM, knuttle wrote:       >>>>> Why does Microsoft feel that it is necessary to nag the user the       >>>>> minute the Update is available? If you don't update when MS thinks       >>>>> you should, it nags by randomly making simple things respond       >>>>> differently or not respond at all. The events will occur every few       >>>>> seconds until the update is installed. Through the years I have       >>>>> observed the same thing on several different computers using       >>>>> different mice.       >>>>>       >>>>> These events occur randomly, maybe one time the program does not       >>>>> open, and a few minutes later it opens normally. Maybe when you       >>>>> click on a function it works normally, the next time it may not       >>>>> respond or act differently. There is not one thing specifically,       >>>>> but many tiny random events to cause significant frustration.       >>>>>       >>>>> The minute the update is made, all these random events disappear,       >>>>> and everything returns to normal       >>>>>       >>>>       >>>> This is caused by services stopping and starting.       >>>>       >>>> To update a file on a service "hot", one way to do it is       >>>> stop the service, insert the new files, then start the service again.       >>>>       >>>> But this can have side effects on applications that might be       >>>> using the service! Even the StartExperience could be perturbed,       >>>> and there have been some "famously bad" incidents, such as the       >>>> "dancing icons" thing I experienced here once. This is why we       >>>> own powerful video cards, so the icons can dance faster.       >>>>       >>>> A lot of the installation process can be done while the OS is       >>>> running. At shutdown/restart, the PendMoves can be completed, for       >>>> any materials that must wait for a quiet moment to be inserted.       >>>>       >>>> None of it absolutely has to be done this way, but that is the       >>>> evolution story. They could maintain a constant service landscape,       >>>> by not working on services "in your face" so to speak. They       >>>> could easily shut down, and do any amount of installation       >>>> without you being able to use the screen. For example, the SearchIndexer       >>>> could be shut off, Sysmain could be shut off, Windows Defender could be       >>>> shut off, the installer could just concentrate on getting the job done.       >>>> Wouldn't that be neat ? Maybe I should get a job there, delivering       >>>> the mail.       >>>>       >>>> Paul       >>>>       >>> Thanks. It is good to know I am not having hallucinations.       >>>       >>> There have been times when I am on the verge of throwing the computer       >>> on the floor because it is not work right. I remember the update       >>> problem, update, and the problems disappear.       >>       >> For both Win10 22H2(two devices - desktop, Surface) and Win11 25H2 I've       >> never experienced a 'device not working right' problem when an update       >> is available or installing or pending restart(when required).       >>       >> Possibly the reason not having those symptoms is the hardware having       >> more than sufficent specs(RAM, SSD, CPU etc.) for its(my) usage pattern       >> and history.       >>       >> Care to elaborate more on specifics.       >> e.g.       >> - what simple things respond differently?       >> - what events occur every *few seconds*?       >> - why you chose to include that issues occur when using different       >> mice on different devices.       >>       >>       >>       > OP: My current computer has an Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 155U; 16.0 GB       > ram, and a 1TB solid state drive.       >       > This has been happening through several computers the oldest had an i3       > CPU that I bought that one nearly 20 years age. It is the only computer       > that actually stop running with a "POP"              Care to elaborate on something specific.        - if it started on a 20 yr old device and still occurring on the       current, that should be plenty of time to at least provide a specific       name of a program or event.                            --       ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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