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   =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=? to knuttle   
   Re: MS NAGGING   
   15 Feb 26 08:18:58   
   
   From: winstonmvp@gmail.com   
      
   knuttle wrote on 2/15/2026 5:10 AM:   
   > On 02/14/2026 9:00 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:   
   >> knuttle wrote on 2/14/2026 4:19 PM:   
   >>> On 02/14/2026 1:39 PM, Paul wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 2/14/2026 10:45 AM, knuttle wrote:   
   >>>>> Why does Microsoft feel that it is necessary to nag the user the   
   >>>>> minute the Update is available? If you don't update when MS thinks   
   >>>>> you should, it nags by randomly making simple things respond   
   >>>>> differently or not respond at all. The events will occur every few   
   >>>>> seconds until the update is installed.  Through the years I have   
   >>>>> observed the same thing on several different computers using   
   >>>>> different mice.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> These events occur randomly, maybe one time the program does not   
   >>>>> open, and a few minutes later it opens normally.  Maybe when you   
   >>>>> click on a function it works normally, the next time it may not   
   >>>>> respond or act differently.  There is not one thing specifically,   
   >>>>> but many tiny random events to cause significant frustration.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The minute the update is made, all these random events disappear,   
   >>>>> and everything returns to normal   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is caused by services stopping and starting.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> To update a file on a service "hot", one way to do it is   
   >>>> stop the service, insert the new files, then start the service again.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But this can have side effects on applications that might be   
   >>>> using the service! Even the StartExperience could be perturbed,   
   >>>> and there have been some "famously bad" incidents, such as the   
   >>>> "dancing icons" thing I experienced here once. This is why we   
   >>>> own powerful video cards, so the icons can dance faster.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A lot of the installation process can be done while the OS is   
   >>>> running. At shutdown/restart, the PendMoves can be completed, for   
   >>>> any materials that must wait for a quiet moment to be inserted.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> None of it absolutely has to be done this way, but that is the   
   >>>> evolution story. They could maintain a constant service landscape,   
   >>>> by not working on services "in your face" so to speak. They   
   >>>> could easily shut down, and do any amount of installation   
   >>>> without you being able to use the screen. For example, the SearchIndexer   
   >>>> could be shut off, Sysmain could be shut off, Windows Defender could be   
   >>>> shut off, the installer could just concentrate on getting the job done.   
   >>>> Wouldn't that be neat ? Maybe I should get a job there, delivering   
   >>>> the mail.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Paul   
   >>>>   
   >>> Thanks.    It is good to know I am not having hallucinations.   
   >>>   
   >>> There have been times when I am on the verge of throwing the computer   
   >>> on the floor because it is not work right.   I remember the update   
   >>> problem, update, and the problems disappear.   
   >>   
   >> For both Win10 22H2(two devices - desktop, Surface) and Win11 25H2 I've   
   >> never experienced a 'device not working right' problem when an update   
   >> is available or installing or pending restart(when required).   
   >>   
   >> Possibly the reason not having those symptoms is the hardware having   
   >> more than sufficent specs(RAM, SSD, CPU etc.) for its(my) usage pattern   
   >> and history.   
   >>   
   >> Care to elaborate more on specifics.   
   >>   e.g.   
   >>   - what simple things respond differently?   
   >>   - what events occur every *few seconds*?   
   >>   - why you chose to include that issues occur when using different   
   >> mice on different devices.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > OP:  My current computer has an Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 155U;  16.0 GB   
   > ram, and a 1TB solid state drive.   
   >   
   > This has been happening through several computers the oldest had an i3   
   > CPU that I bought that one nearly 20 years age. It is the only computer   
   > that actually stop running with a "POP"   
      
   Care to elaborate on something specific.   
     - if it started on a 20 yr old device and still occurring on the   
   current, that should be plenty of time to at least provide a specific   
   name of a program or event.   
      
      
      
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