XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 2/22/2026 3:51 PM, micky wrote:   
   > FYI   
   >   
   > Did you know: That no file manager with a GuI will display files in a   
   > directory in the order they are written onto the media?  And that no   
   > option in CMD will do this either?   
   >   
   > (I really don't understand Powershell or its role. Will anything in   
   > Powershell do this?)   
   >   
   > The only thing I know that will do this is Take Command, TCC or its free   
   > version TCC/LE.  Hasn't been updated since 2020 or earlier afaict, but   
   > there is no need to update it.  It's fantastic.  Has many other great   
   > enhancements though my 709-yo memory will need some time to think of   
   > them.   
   >   One simple one is CD....  where the number of dots minus one indicates   
   > how many directories up you will position yourself.   
   >   And dir /o:u will display files in Unsorted order.   
   >   
   > Why would physical order matter?  I'm sure there are many reasons, but   
   > for me, I wanted a flashdrive with music I like, since no radio station   
   > in Baltimore** plays it and I'm going abroad and certainly no station   
   > there plays 50's and early 60's music.  But using Radiomaximus, and I'm   
   > sure other methods, one can play 181.FM Oldies, for free.   And there   
   > are amny other genres as well.   
   >   
   > I did this several years ago but I can't find the flashdrive I made.   
   > This time it will be even better. So instead of just recording for a ay   
   > and a half, I recorded for 3 days. Got about 1650 files.  Sorted   
   > alphabetically and got rid of two groups I don't like, and got rid of   
   > the advertisements that they play, not that often but since I can get   
   > rid of them, I did so. (they are easy to spot, 1/10th the size of songs,   
   > plus they all have the same or similar names, names that are not the   
   > names of songs.  There were about 240 out of the 1700)   
   >   
   > This left 1357.  By sorting alphabetically, one sees that ome songs   
   > appea only once, some twice, and many 3 times.   
   >   
   > Well, they've taken small steps against my plan by putting a little   
   > advertising within the song files, but a small amount compared to what I   
   > deleted.   
   >   
   > If you use VLC and some other software, it plays them in alphabetical   
   > order, no matter what order they are on the flashdrive.  How about that.   
   > But the gizmo I have that plugs into the cigarette lighter and xmit to   
   > the radio plays in the order they exist on the drive.  The car I rent   
   > will probably have a usb input, and I don't know what order they will   
   > play in.  I've also got a tiny mp3 player that connects with a 1/8"   
   > audio cable. That plays in the order I want.   
   >   
   > For some reason, 5 seconds or so of the next song ae in the privious   
   > song's file, so if you don't play them in the original order, all the   
   > songs start 5 seconds in, and end with 5 seconds unrelated to the song   
   > before or the song after.   
   >   
   > Then I copied all of them to the flash drive it used whatever order was   
   > in the File Manager (with a gui). But I couldnt tell for sure what order   
   > they were in without TCC/LE and  dir /o:u .   
   >   
      
   RadioMaximus has a record stream as an option, but then this   
   might not identify the selections later on when you're reviewing   
   it. The advantage of the streaming, is it would be up to you to cut them   
   into chunks. Which is both a plus and a minus.   
      
   If you screen-record RadioMaximus, you would capture the sound plus   
   a visual caption on the player as the song plays. This allows later   
   identification, but still involves the operator in splicing the two   
   together. Maybe there is some sort of subtitle software that   
   could assist.   
      
   The FAT and the $MFT can be mechanically read out, without any fancy   
   file manager interpretations. nfi.exe shows how that works for NTFS.   
      
   File 67108925   
   \out\3FFFFFD.txt   
       $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)   
       $FILE_NAME (resident)   
       $DATA (resident)   
      
   File 67108926   
   \out\3FFFFFE.txt   
       $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)   
       $FILE_NAME (resident)   
       $DATA (resident)   
      
   File 67108927   
   \out\3FFFFFF.txt   
       $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)   
       $FILE_NAME (resident)   
       $DATA (resident)   
      
   For better control, some music players support   
   "play-lists" but I don't know if that is standard   
   enough to be a common feature. Players which are   
   closer to being computers, are more likely to have   
   a fancy feature set.   
      
   I don't at the moment, see a simple solution to making   
   your equipment do what it's supposed to do. It is possible   
   RadioMaximus has some Preference that has the 5 second behavior in it,   
   and the behavior is being "applied to the wrong thing". It   
   was not likely to be intended for ruining music selections   
   as they were stored as files. Saving in streaming mode,   
   avoids arbitrary chopping, but would be a lot of work to   
   create a derived work (a USB stick) for later. If you load a   
   three day stream into Audacity, it might take a lot of   
   storage to do that, as the selection is read in and stored   
   as 1MB "chunks". And the format they use while doing that,   
   might not be as efficient as MP3. And any time you edit   
   something (without lossless splice) there would be some   
   generational loss.   
      
   Since you have likely messed with the original USB stick,   
   there might not be any special properties of the file system   
   to take advantage of at this point. The creation date of   
   the files, may indicate the order of capture, and there   
   is enough time between selections for the file times   
   to be unique.   
      
      Paul   
      
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