XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 22 Feb 2026 16:43:35 -0500, knuttle   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 02/22/2026 3:51 PM, micky wrote:   
   >> FYI   
   >>   
   >> Did you know: That no file manager with a GuI will display files in a   
   >> directory in the order they are written onto the media?  And that no   
   >> option in CMD will do this either?   
   >>   
   >> (I really don't understand Powershell or its role. Will anything in   
   >> Powershell do this?)   
   >>   
   >> The only thing I know that will do this is Take Command, TCC or its free   
   >> version TCC/LE.  Hasn't been updated since 2020 or earlier afaict, but   
   >> there is no need to update it.  It's fantastic.  Has many other great   
   >> enhancements though my 709-yo memory will need some time to think of   
   >> them.   
   >>    One simple one is CD....  where the number of dots minus one indicates   
   >> how many directories up you will position yourself.   
   >>    And dir /o:u will display files in Unsorted order.   
   >>   
   >> Why would physical order matter?  I'm sure there are many reasons, but   
   >> for me, I wanted a flashdrive with music I like, since no radio station   
   >> in Baltimore** plays it and I'm going abroad and certainly no station   
   >> there plays 50's and early 60's music.  But using Radiomaximus, and I'm   
   >> sure other methods, one can play 181.FM Oldies, for free.   And there   
   >> are amny other genres as well.   
   >>   
   >> I did this several years ago but I can't find the flashdrive I made.   
   >> This time it will be even better. So instead of just recording for a ay   
   >> and a half, I recorded for 3 days. Got about 1650 files.  Sorted   
   >> alphabetically and got rid of two groups I don't like, and got rid of   
   >> the advertisements that they play, not that often but since I can get   
   >> rid of them, I did so. (they are easy to spot, 1/10th the size of songs,   
   >> plus they all have the same or similar names, names that are not the   
   >> names of songs.  There were about 240 out of the 1700)   
   >>   
   >> This left 1357.  By sorting alphabetically, one sees that ome songs   
   >> appea only once, some twice, and many 3 times.   
   >>   
   >> Well, they've taken small steps against my plan by putting a little   
   >> advertising within the song files, but a small amount compared to what I   
   >> deleted.   
   >>   
   >> If you use VLC and some other software, it plays them in alphabetical   
   >> order, no matter what order they are on the flashdrive.  How about that.   
   >> But the gizmo I have that plugs into the cigarette lighter and xmit to   
   >> the radio plays in the order they exist on the drive.  The car I rent   
   >> will probably have a usb input, and I don't know what order they will   
   >> play in.  I've also got a tiny mp3 player that connects with a 1/8"   
   >> audio cable. That plays in the order I want.   
   >>   
   >> For some reason, 5 seconds or so of the next song ae in the privious   
   >> song's file, so if you don't play them in the original order, all the   
   >> songs start 5 seconds in, and end with 5 seconds unrelated to the song   
   >> before or the song after.   
   >>   
   >> Then I copied all of them to the flash drive it used whatever order was   
   >> in the File Manager (with a gui). But I couldnt tell for sure what order   
   >> they were in without TCC/LE and  dir /o:u .   
   >You can display the date created in the File manager.   
      
   Displaying the date does not show you which file appears first on the   
   media.  Some devices play songs in the order they are stored on the   
   media.   
   >   
   >Right click on the colunn header bar, and then select the columns you   
   >want to view.   I normally have columns Name, Date Modified, and Sizs.   
   >When I saw this your message, I added the column Date Create to the   
   >column shown in the folder.   You can standardize the column headings in   
   >all folder.  For images and music there are additional columns that can   
   >be added to the File Manager Folder with those file types.   
      
   Yes, I've long had Date Create on my list of columns, but clicking on   
   that gives a sorted view, by date.  My point was that when using a GUI   
   you cannot look at files on a flashdrive or any media in an unsorted   
   view and you cannot with DOS or CMD either, but you can with TCC and   
   TCC/LE.   
      
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