From: boogerpicker@wazoo.net   
      
   You could always go with an ARB but it costs a lot more than a safari bar.   
   However it does offer a lot more front end protection.   
      
      
   "Mike K"  wrote in message   
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   > "Bruce L. Bergman"  wrote in message   
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   >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:50:56 -0700, "Fuller Wrath"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>>"dwk"  wrote...   
   >>   
   >>>> I'm looking for a "bull bar" for my 07 Tacoma........the ones from   
   >>>> Westin   
   >>>> look good........does anyone know if they are well made?  EZ to   
   >>>> install?   
   >>>> and most of all, no do they use all of the existing mounting holes w/o   
   >>>> drilling or modifications to the frame or brackets?   
   >>>   
   >>>I had one on my 98 and it bolted on to the tow hook points. It depends on   
   >>>what you mean by "well made." The quality was excellent however it offers   
   >>>NO   
   >>>protection from anything. It is of the same gauge steel as nerf or "roll"   
   >>>bars.  It does offer a good place to mount lights since the stock   
   >>>"bumper"   
   >>>is lame.  Mine required NO modifications at all and went on in minutes. I   
   >>>don't know if anything has changed to the '07.   
   >>   
   >>  The only way a grille guard would actually guard the grille is if   
   >> they have heavy steel back-braces through the grille, through the   
   >> radiator support, and back to the chassis to triangulate the mounting   
   >> - Effective, but that's a whole lotta custom work.   
   >>   
   >>  Any less, and it just folds back at the L brackets at the base.   
   >>   
   >>     --<< Bruce >>--   
   >>   
   > the grill can be protected without bracing through the grill.  But it does   
   > require a substantial mount to the frame.   
   >   
   > Mike K   
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