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   Suddenly, without warning, someone@some.domain exclaimed (11/15/2008   
   4:26 AM):   
      
   > ok, that i see. but the idea one can live decently on $20 and hour in a major   
   > city is just wrong. yiou can live with roomates in the bad side of   
   > town...maybe. to live in ny, boston, hartford, any big east coast city, to   
   > live alone on the old 1/4 income= rent theory, you would need to make and   
   take   
   > home $1200 a week. 60k annualy is not upper class.   
      
   So, move someplace more affordable.  One can live outside the city and   
   survive, you know.  We have thousands of, uh, "undocumented workers"   
   (don't get me started.  They're illegal!  Call 'em that!) that live   
   nearby that can attest to that.   
      
   I do not think an unskilled laborer should get $20/hr.  I believe that   
   unskilled laborer, if s/he wants to make $20/hr, should go out and GET A   
   SKILL!  It's really NOT that hard.  I did it.  I come from a low-middle   
   class family.  I put myself through college.  When I wanted to change   
   careers, I took a mail-order course (back before 'net courses were   
   available).  Later, I self-taught myself additional skills to get a   
   certificate in my new career field.  I got the job I still have to day   
   specifically because the hiring officer was impressed I'd done this.   
   I'd been working very hard for quite a while to break that $20 mark, and   
   I did, and have what would be a very nice income (if I lived anywhere   
   but here, lol).   
      
   There's no shame in renting a room - I know lots of folks who rent a   
   single room in townhouses and single-family homes.   Even my husband did   
   this back in the early eighties, when he first moved to this area.  The   
   owner of the house gets to keep it 'cause the rent is helping pay the   
   mortgage, and the renter gets a place they can afford.  Everybody wins.   
     It's very, very common here in WDC, one of the most expensive places   
   in the US to live.  These are nice houses in the 'burbs, not on the "bad   
   side of town".   
      
   If you want to make a decent income, you should have to work for it.   
   Simple as that.  When I was 15, I started working part-time for I think   
   around $3/hour.  I started in fast food, and worked my way up from there.   
      
   Gaaa!  Everybody wants something for nothing these days!   
      
   jmc   
      
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