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   Suddenly, without warning, someone@some.domain exclaimed (11/15/2008   
   9:29 PM):   
   > In article <6o8uoeF2e2q7U1@mid.individual.net>, jmc  wrote:   
   >> Suddenly, without warning, someone@some.domain exclaimed (11/15/2008   
   >> 1:26 PM):   
   >>   
   >>> you can understand $20 is low money. so have a nice whatever....   
   >> Huh?  When did I ever say that?  $20/hr is actually pretty good pay in   
   >> most places.  My Mom's been working at the same place for close to 30   
   >> years, working hard, and I don't think she even makes that much!   
   >>   
   >> $20/hr is too damn much for unskilled labor.  Period.  That's starting   
   >> level pay for some with an actual degree and a skillset, I think.  I'd   
   >> been working in IT for years, before I started making that much.   
   >>   
   >> Once again:  If you want to make $20/hour, get off your couch and go   
   >> back to school.  If you can't afford that, get a certificate in whatever   
   >> field you're interesting.  But get off that butt and go LEARN SOMETHING   
   >> so an employer thinks you're worth that much.   
   >>   
   >> GAAA!  Something-for-nothing.  What are they teaching people these days?   
   >>   
   >> jmc   
   > where did you get the delusion i don't work? i make better than $20 an hour.   
   > i'm not claiming to be rich, but i don't consider $20 a lot in most cities.   
   > unskilled labor is tough to define. that's why we have so many illegals. we   
   > don't think tire changers should earn $20 and hour, or dishwashers, so we   
   > won't work for it.   
   > years ago i drove cab in a big city. almost all the drivers were native born   
   > americans. because it doesn't pay much now, most drivers are foreigners and   
   > many are illegals.   
   > you trying to tell me what to do his hyterical and hypocritical. you don't   
   > listen or read well. must be why your'e unskilled.   
   > once my profession didn't pay well, but now a teacher can earn a living.   
      
   Speaking of not reading well: When did I say you didn't work?  And where   
   did I say I'm not skilled?   
      
   This makes no sense: "we don't think tire changers should earn $20 and   
   [sic] hour, or dishwashers, so we won't work for it".  Huh?  Is this a   
   mistype?  Shouldn't this read, "we think tire changers should earn $20   
   and [sic] hour, or dishwashers, so we won't work for it"?  Our American   
   kids don't want the low-paying jobs any more because they haven't been   
   taught a decent work ethic (as my generation - don't know if it is   
   your's too - generally was).  Thus, leaving a hole in the economy for   
   the illegal immigrants to fill.   
      
   I didn't intend to tell you in particular what to do, when I say "If you   
   want..." I meant as in anyone.  Perhaps I should have used "someone".   
      
   I listen and read very well. I also know how to write well, and get paid   
   very well for those skills and other skills I've learned along the way.   
     I worked hard and honestly up the ranks to where I am now. I'm a   
   skilled IT expert, and instructor in my field as well.   
      
   I never worked as a cab driver, but worked many years in fast food, in   
   one-hour photo stores, and a variety of other unskilled jobs until I   
   trained myself out of that rut and into the job I have now.  I did not   
   expect to make even $10 an hour at those jobs, and I did not.  As a   
   matter of fact, I don't think I broke that $10/hour barrier until I   
   started working for my current employer, doing IT work.   
      
   And because I'm feeling snarky, I certainly hope you are not an English   
   teacher.  Your writing could use some work.  Please, have someone show   
   you where the spell checker is.   
      
   jmc   
      
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