From: desertphile@invalid-address.net   
      
   On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:47:40 -0800, SMS   
    wrote:   
      
   > Steve wrote:   
   > > "SMS"  wrote in message   
   > > news:Et0gl.19727$ZP4.7069@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...   
   > >> Steve wrote:   
   > >>> "SMS"  wrote in message   
   > >>> news:4IEfl.855$Lr6.278@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...   
   > >>>> Steve wrote:   
   > >>>>> Visit the website below, sign up as a Preferred Customer and purchase   
   > >>>>> AMSOIL   
   > >>>>> products at wholesale pricing.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>> Remember to not use non-API certified oil in any vehicle with a   
   > >>>> catalytic converter.   
   > >>> Steven:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> APPLICATIONS   
   > >>> AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for gasoline engines,   
   > >>> diesel   
   > >>    
   > >>   
   > >> Amsoil has stated that most of their oils have too much ZDDP to be able to   
   > >> pass API certification. The XL-7500 is an exception and was able to pass   
   > >> API certification. What Amsoil recommends is immaterial, what is important   
   > >> is to not violate the manufacturer's requirements.   
   > >   
   > > AMSOIl meets or exceeds the minimum requirements.  Period!   
      
   > Nope. Most of Amsoil products are unable to meet the API requirements.   
   > Period.   
      
   I wouldn't use that Amsoil shit even if they paid me to use it:   
   I'd rather park the vehicle and walk to an auto parts store and   
   buy properly certified lubricants than risk putting sub-standard   
   Amsoil crap in my vehicle.   
      
   It isn't merely the catalytic converter I would worry about: it's   
   the warranty as well.   
      
   > You can check the status of API certification on the API web site. Be   
   > certain to go not just by the manufacturer name but by the actual   
   > product as well. This is because a manufacturer will sometimes have both   
   > certified and non-certified products. Suffice it to say that Mobil 1,   
   > Royal Purple, Castrol, & Havoline all make synthetic oils that are API   
   > certified and that can be purchased at auto parts stores and other   
   > retail outlets. Amsoil has one product line, XL-7500 that is API   
   > certified, but it's other lines contain too much ZDP to be certified and   
   > should not be used in vehicles with catalytic converters.   
   >   
   > Here's what Amsoil employee Byron Selbrede said about this issue on May   
   > 14, 2001:   
   >   
   > "Actually it's the amount of phosphorus that is regulated-- but   
   > that is directly related to the amount of zinc that can be used as they   
   > are combined as zinc dithio phosphate (ZDP). This is only regulated in 2   
   > viscosity grades, 5W30 and 10W30. Other than the Series 7500, AMSOIL   
   > lubes all contain more ZDP than can be used in an API licensed oil. For   
   > examples of our ZDP levels refer to data sheets for AMO, ARO, AMF or AMV."   
   >   
   > I know that you feel compelled to follow the Amsoil marketing department   
   > literature, but it would behoove you to actually learn the facts about   
   > the products you're trying to sell to people. There's nothing wrong with   
   > selling the API certified Amsoil products to vehicle owners, but avoid   
   > selling the non-API certified products. They will shorten the life of   
   > the catalytic converter.   
      
      
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