XPost: alt.autos, alt.autos.toyota   
   From: cewhite3@mindspring.com   
      
   "SMS"  wrote in message   
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   > M. Balmer wrote:   
   >> No, I think you are kidding. I see Dodges, Chevys and Fords with   
   >> rusted frames (steel doesn't "rot) right here in AZ.  My 98 Tacoma   
   >> can run rings around any full sized Amerikan vehicle. It's been   
   >> offroad every fucking week for 11 years and there's nothing rebuilt   
   >> about the drive train and no rust either.  American vehicles are   
   >> good for hauling fat passengers and massive tonnages of cargo but   
   >> utterly worthless offroad. They do not hold their value and quality   
   >> is nonexistent.   
   >   
   > The Tundra is a very popular truck for contractors. It's expensive,   
   > but it's much tougher than the trucks from Ford like the F150, and   
   > they last for a very long time. The F150 is more for the weekend   
   > warrior that needs to occasionally tow a boat, or pick up a load of   
   > stuff from Home Depot. They were popular car replacements for a long   
   > time, but they really can't be considered "work trucks."   
      
   Come on, this is total BS. It is almost the exact opposite of reality.   
   I'll bet 80+% plus Tundras are sold to people who never haul or tow   
   anything more significant than a load of potting soil form Home Depot.   
   Most serious contractors/famrer go for F250s ,or Silverado HDs. I use   
   my F150 on my farm and it does jsut fine. I considered an F250, but   
   the F150 jsut seemed to suit me better. If I was goign to tow a 20 ft   
   cattle weekly, then I'd probably have gone for the F250 (or 350), but   
   I only tow something heavy a few times a year, so I decided to go for   
   the F150 (queiter, better ride). I do regulalrly carry pallet loads of   
   seed in my truck (2500#) and it handles that just fine. I know one   
   farmer in my area that owns a Tundra...but for real work he pulls out   
   his F250. The Tundra is his ride around truck. The local Toyota dealer   
   was practically giving them away and he couldn't resist.   
      
   As for toughness, have you looked under a Tundra? Try it and then look   
   under an F250. The Tundra frame is so whimpy the bed shakes like a   
   bowl of jello if you leave the tailgate open.   
      
   Go to http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/ and look at the durability   
   test. I know this is a Ford produces advertising film, so I don't   
   doubt it is biased, but there are enough complaints from Tundra owners   
   that I am sure it is a problem and there are aftermarket fixes you can   
   buy, so it must be a significant problem.   
      
   Ed   
      
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