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   JoeSpareBedroom to SMS   
   Re: Latest Mis-Leading Tundra Commercial   
   27 Oct 09 10:57:10   
   
   XPost: alt.autos, alt.autos.toyota   
   From: newstrash@frontiernet.net   
      
   "SMS"  wrote in message   
   news:4ae708da$0$1648$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...   
   > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:   
   >> "C. E. White"  wrote in message   
   >> news:hc6u39$uho$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >>   
   >> That sure was a lot of data in your last message. But there's still some   
   >> important data missing. You still can't show data which indicates how   
   >> many people buy trucks "just to have", vs those who buy them because of   
   >> their work. That data would also need to be broken down by brand. You've   
   >> made claims which require this data in order to be believable, but you've   
   >> never shown the data. That's probably because such data doesn't exist.   
   >   
   > You have to look at the big picture.   
   >   
   > Consider that people shopping for a vehicle at a Ford dealer will often   
   > purchase the F150 rather than one of Ford's rather poor sedans, coupes, or   
   > SUVs. That's how you end up with the F150 often being the "best selling   
   > vehicle in the U.S." No one thinks that all those buyers are contractors;   
   > those F150s are the daily commute vehicle for most of the buyers.   
   >   
   > People shopping for a vehicle at a Toyota dealer have a selection of   
   > excellent cars, trucks, and SUVs. Few Toyota buyers are going to choose a   
   > large pickup truck, with its rather poor MPG, as a passenger vehicle for   
   > daily use. That's why Tundra buyers tend to be people that are using their   
   > trucks for real work, not weekend warriors hauling bags of potting soil   
   > home from Lowe's or Home Depot.   
   >   
   > The market for personal vehicles is much larger than the market for real   
   > work trucks, that's why the F150 sells well.   
      
      
   Maybe, but without data (which doesn't exist), your theories do nothing but   
   invite yet another detour in the discussion. Hunter should come along   
   shortly, sputtering & drooling with another of his drunken, misspelled   
   opinions.   
      
   But still, there will be no data. There may be a few dealerships where real   
   sales training is done, and the salespeople proactively ask buyers how they   
   plan on using their trucks. But we'll never know because nobody polls car   
   salesmen on this subject. I wish somebody would prove me wrong, though. It   
   would mean that there was more sales professionalism in the car business   
   than previously thought. That would be a win-win situation in so many ways.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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