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   From: rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com   
      
   "in2dadark"  wrote in message   
   news:b6cd16f3-c946-42ae-a6f7-afafcb5d863a@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...   
   On Nov 22, 9:33 pm, "Ray O"    
   wrote:   
   > "ben91932"  wrote in message   
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   > news:3fcb0f20-2213-4d0e-8228-3640cf49ae5f@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...   
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   > >> How do they know she "vigorously and desperately" applied her brakes   
   > >> if she diesd in the crash? Sounds like another case of pedal confusion   
   > >> to me.   
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   > >> Ed   
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   > > IIRC, obd2 can store values like brake pressure....   
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   > As Jeff Strickland posted, some vehicles have a separate recording device   
   > that is separate from OBD II. OBD II does not store pedal pressure as most   
   > vehicles do not have a pedal pressure sensor.   
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   > BTW, there is another indicator besides discolored brake rotors and black   
   > boxes as to whether the brakes were applied at the time of impact.   
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   > Ray O   
   > (correct punctuation to reply)   
      
   And that would be...?   
      
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   As Scott Dorsey mentioned, the brake light bulbs can give an indication of   
   whether or not the lights were illuminated at the time of impact.   
      
   I can't confirm whether or not Scott's explanation if correct or not, but it   
   sounds plausible.   
      
   We used to have to check out vehicles where the operator claimed that a   
   defect in the vehicle caused an accident, and I noticed that police   
   technicians often removed the brake light bulbs or tail light assemblies,   
   and when I asked the technician why he was removing the bulbs, he said that   
   the brake light bulbs tell a story.   
   --   
      
   Ray O   
   (correct punctuation to reply)   
      
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