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   C. E. White to Trueno@e86.GTS   
   Re: Toyota issued at least 3 Drive-by-Wi   
   30 Nov 09 07:31:08   
   
   XPost: alt.autos.toyota.camry, alt.autos.toyota, alt.autos.lexus   
   XPost: rec.autos.tech   
   From: cewhite3@mindspring.com   
      
   "Hachiroku ????"  wrote in message   
   news:pan.2009.11.28.03.04.09.111435@e86.GTS...   
   > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:51:13 -0800, john wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> This is getting interesting. There were engine surge problems from   
   >> the   
   >> beginning of drive-by-wires that Toyota issued TSBs to fix   
   >   
   > I have a drive-by-wire Scion with the Camry engine. No TSBs. Find   
   > one for   
   > me.   
      
   What year is your Scion? NHTSA list 33 TSBs for a 2005 tC. Only one   
   seems even slightly related to reprogramming the engine controller -   
      
   Make / Models :     Model/Build Years:   
   TOYOTA / SCION TC 2005-2008   
   TOYOTA / SCION XA 2004-2008   
   TOYOTA / SCION XB 2004-2008   
   TOYOTA / XD 2008   
      
   Service Bulletin Number : 00307   
   NHTSA Item Number : 10022144   
   Summary Description :   
   TECHSTREAM ECU FLASH REPROGRAMMING PROCEDURE. *KB   
      
   Unfortunately NHTSA doesn't give you the text of the TSB for free.   
   Also, the NHTSA list often includes special serivce messages in he   
   list. These are not traditional TSBs but are broadcst messages.   
   Manufacturers are required to notifiy NHTSA of any safety related   
   service bulletins. US manaufacturers usually send NHTSA all service   
   meassges, even very mundane ones. In the past Toyota was more   
   selective, although after looking through the lsit of Scion TSBs   
   listed by NHTSA, it appears they are being less selective now. If you   
   really want to know if the TSB in the NHTSA list affects your car, you   
   can always pay for access to the Toyota Service Information System.   
   Daily access is available for a very reasonable fee.   
      
   I also looked in the NHTSA defect investigation database., The only   
   defect investigation open againt a Scion tC was related to the   
   sunroof.   
      
   In my opinion, the pot stirring regarding fly by wire systems is comig   
   from two soruces, ignorant fear mongering and trial lawer Customer   
   developement activities.   
      
   Ed   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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