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   From: crwlrjeff@yahoo.com   
      
   "hls"  wrote in message   
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   > "Jeff Strickland"  wrote in message   
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   >> "Desertphile"  wrote in message   
   >> news:ub4rh5d42o3u5qtpqgv37e6cnoq6agan3n@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:28:54 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"   
   >>>  wrote:   
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   >>>> "Desertphile"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:5jaqh51laq53mmplin796o5hfp56fsqqv6@4ax.com...   
   >>>> > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:57:57 -0800 (PST), john   
   >>>> >  wrote:   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> >> Consumers "allege stalls occurring randomly while driving, including   
   >>>> >> some on highways and some in intersections," the agency stated."   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> > People believe a lot of things. =YAWN!= Come back when there's   
   >>>> > actual evidence of a problem.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Yeah, it's a bitch when they "believe" the car stopped running on the   
   >>>> highway for no apparent reason. Stupid people.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, it is a bitch when they believe it was the cars' fault and   
   >>> not the drivers'.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> At 70mph, there's not much the driver can do to stall the motor.   
   >   
   >   
   > I had a Sonoma stall on me twice the other day at the posted speed limit.   
   > It was a cold day and I hadnt warmed the engine before I started out.   
   >   
   > I could have taken the time to let the engine warm up.  I guess that made   
   > it my fault?   
      
   The report was that the car was being driven on the freeway when the engine   
   shut down for no apparent reason. Some might call that a stall. None would   
   agree that such an event could be driver induced.   
      
   You pull out of the neighborhood with a cold motor and the engine stalls as   
   you pull up to the traffic light is an entirely different matter. But if the   
   car will not idle, it's broken. Do you care? Apparently not. Is it critical?   
   No. But if you were cruising along on the freeway and the engine took the   
   opportunity to shut off for no reason, I'm pretty sure you would be   
   concerned.   
      
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