From: pbogi@hotmail.com   
      
   Hello,   
      
   Unfortunately, my 1990 4runner recently started leaking coolant, which I   
   suspect is due to a bad water pump. It's been way too cold out to start   
   taking it apart to prove that is the case. FWIW, the vehicle has 203k miles   
   on it. The dealer wants around $1100 to replace the timing belt and water   
   pump. I checked around and received a similar price from a non-dealer.   
   Needless to say, the vehicle also has body rot that is typical for 4runners.   
   That said, and because it really isn't worth spending $1100 on the vehicle,   
   I've been looking for a newer one to replace it.   
      
   I'd like to find either a used 4runner or Tundra in a 4x4 for either model.   
   If I find a Tundra, I'd like a quad cab, so that I can carry passengers as   
   well as cargo.   
      
   So far, I'm finding high mileage older vehicles with what I consider to be   
   high prices and newer ones that are ridiculously overpriced. Granted, they   
   say that Toyotas hold their value, but some of the prices that I've seen are   
   too high for me.   
      
   What are some things that I should be looking for in either model? By that,   
   I mean are there some models that won't require the $1100 timing belt /   
   water pump maintenance charge every 60k - 90k miles? I've heard that 4.0 L   
   4runners have timing chains as opposed to a belt. It seems that might be   
   something to look for while shopping around. Also, is there any advantage or   
   distadvantage to a V6 or a V8? As for the Tundras, I've read that there's a   
   frame recall on the 2007's going forward. I've also heard that the older   
   2000 Tundras weren't that good on gas either. Any pointers for either   
   vehicle or shopping tips in general would be greatly appreciated.   
      
   Thanks in advance to those who post a reply to the group.   
      
   Peter.   
      
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