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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota.camry, alt.autos.toyota, alt.autos.lexus   
   XPost: rec.autos.tech   
   From: Mikehunt2@lycos,com   
      
   Perhaps but one has to ask, if you could afford a new car today would you   
   buy the one with a bubble in the glass or the one that can go out of control   
   and kill your wife and children? ;)   
      
      
   "ransley" wrote in message   
   news:d357c704-0348-4c1b-9de7-7d7d3e67aa1f@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Jan 27, 12:30 am, jr92 wrote:   
   >> On Jan 26, 7:37 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:07:03 -0800, jr92 wrote:   
   >> > > What they are doing now is is simply a PR move.   
   >>   
   >> > > Many are considering it to be a desperation tactic.   
   >>   
   >> > > Time will tell if their PR move pays off.   
   >>   
   >> > > Myself,   
   >>   
   >> > > I value my loved ones' well-being too much to risk putting them into   
   >> > > the   
   >> > > likes of a Toyota.   
   >>   
   >> > Really? What DO you put them into?   
   >>   
   >> Good old GM cars.   
   >>   
   >> Perform better in crash tests than their Japanese counterparts.   
   >>   
   >> Are more fuel effecient than their Japanese counterparts.   
   >>   
   >> Have much better performance than their Japanese counterparts.   
   >>   
   >> Are not recalled nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts.   
   >>   
   >> Engines dont sludge, suspensions dont rust, and throttles dont stick   
   >> wide open nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts.   
   >>   
   >> > My last Toyota was recalled for...   
   >>   
   >> > the antenna not mounted to the body correctly, which may cause static   
   >> > on   
   >> > the radio.   
   >>   
   >> And my last Pontiac was recalled for an external thermometer guage not   
   >> reading accuractly.   
   >>   
   >> > With Ford sticking stickers on the dash saying, This car may go into   
   >> > reverse at any time...   
   >>   
   >> Of course, certain Toyotas could have used a sticker warning drivers   
   >> that the throttle could stick wide open at any time.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > Chevy making rolling blunders   
   >>   
   >> And certain Toyotas rolling over, period.   
   >>   
   >> > I'll stick to Toytota. They aren't perfect, but about as close as you   
   >> > can   
   >> > get at a good price.   
   >>   
   >> Prices on many models are certain to go up, due to shortages, because,   
   >> at least for the time being, they arent being made anymore. (I guess   
   >> there goes your "good price")   
   >>   
   >> There is a rumor going about that the vechicles throttles may stick   
   >> open. making them too dangerous to drive.   
   >>   
   >> I guess that proves they "aren/t perfect."   
   >>   
   >> In my books, that is FAR from being perfect.   
   >   
   > PONTIAC, you compare Toy to PONTIAC   
   > HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA, you gota stop lyin   
   > to yourself !! When I look at Consumer Reports ratings all the Black   
   > marks on pontiac make me wonder how they survived this long. I went to   
   > a dealer to look at one and drove it, the front windshield had 4 air   
   > bubbles in it, it was a cheap black plastic interior, it reminded me   
   > of that cheap 70s look on how they always looked dirty inside. I asked   
   > if I could get brown, yea he said, but the dash would have been that   
   > cheap black crappy looking shit, it dove hard, steered stiff and I   
   > said to the salesman, " any company willing to pass this defective   
   > piece of crap windshield with 4 air bubbles in it wont get my vote for   
   > confidence that any bearings or anything elseis not defective or crap.   
   > PONTIAC is the cheapest crap made besides Yugo. And you bs on milage   
   > and all else is nothing but lies, and I am not driving a toyota right   
   > now, but I still have one thats fine, a 91.   
      
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