XPost: alt.autos.toyota.camry, alt.autos.toyota, alt.autos.lexus   
   XPost: rec.autos.tech   
   From: corn@cob.com   
      
   On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Steve  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4   
   >seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear,   
   >and you have the current messy situation.   
      
   What genius came up with that idea?   
      
   Someone tell me what was wrong with the old-fashioned kind of   
   ignition.  Oh yeah, "moving forward".  Technology for technology's   
   sake.  BAH!   
   Can't even blame Toyota (specifically) for this, all automakers are   
   doing this.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)